Talk:Betty Skelton

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group.

Aviation: Air sports / Biography

This article is within the scope of the Aviation WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see lists of open tasks and task forces. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.AviationWikipedia:WikiProject AviationTemplate:WikiProject Aviationaviation articles

This article has not yet been checked against the criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar and style: not checked Supporting materials: not checked	To fill out this checklist, please add the following code to the template call: \| b1<!--Referencing and citation--> = <yes/no> \| b2<!--Coverage and accuracy --> = <yes/no> \| b3<!--Structure --> = <yes/no> \| b4<!--Grammar and style --> = <yes/no> \| b5<!--Supporting materials --> = <yes/no> assessing the article against each criterion.

Associated projects or task forces:
/
	This article is supported by the Air sports project.
	This article is supported by the aerospace biography project.

Who is Betty Skelton married to/where does she live?

An earlier version said:

Married to Don Frankman, she now resides in Winter Haven, Florida.

Later it was changed to read:

Married to Allan Erde, she now resides in Vero Beach, Florida.

Which is it? I can find no evidence that she ever married an Allan Erde; her 1999 oral history interview only mentions Frankman. --A. B. 00:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don Frankman died in 2001 or 2002. Betty married Alan Erde and moved to Vero Beach. I will try and gather accurate dates and citations and repost. The present wording in the article is correct. I saw Betty and Alan at the Women in Aviation Conference in Orlando in Febrary, 2007 and she looked well. 69.72.2.72 22:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be combined with the article on Betty Skelton. 69.72.2.72 22:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problems

This article needs to be rewritten, as it takes too liberally from other sources, both literal duplication and close paraphrasing.

For a few examples, compare text from the article this source:

"...played with model airplanes, not dolls. At the age of eight...began teaching the entire family to fly."

And compare to this source:

"She received her commercial rating...in Tampa."
"She first started aerobatic...local amateur airshow."
"She bought her own aircraft...exhibition team, the Blue Angels."

To this source (+ [1]):

"During her teenage years, Betty flew...during the day."
"She mastered dozens of tricks...off the ground."
"In 1948, she bought a rare Pitts Special...beautiful woman in a male-dominated world of death-defying stunts."
"climbed into a Dodge sedan...discovered her second passion."
"raced across the South American...proving grounds in Michigan."
"set records with Corvettes, owning 10 in all."
"They retired in the 1970s...a retired Navy surgeon"

There are likely to be other passages within these and other sources, but I believe this is ample enough to require a complete rewrite. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Reviewed, relisted to leave more time for a rewrite. MLauba (talk) 10:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you checked to see if the article can be reverted to this revision? I know it's a great loss of content, but it looks a lot cleaner than nothing. She's definitely notable enough and needs an article. Royal broil 23:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Sorry for the delay in response. This tag is frequently used just to give contributors a chance to preserve content prior to the restoration of last clean. (This often seems more courteous to all contributors when a lot of work has gone into an article that simply tossing it all aside.) In this case, there is a new version that is at this very moment being evaluated. Should it prove usable, it will be merged with that older history and the article restored to publication very soon. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, thanks to everyone for spending the time to fix this correctly! Royal broil 02:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 9 external links on Betty Skelton Erde. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 December 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 05:08, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Betty Skelton Erde → Betty Skelton – I just closed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 19#Erde as retarget to Betty Skelton Erde, but now that I've actually read the article and analysed the sources, I believe she was most commonly known simply as Betty Skelton. The vast majority of the sources use "Betty Skelton" as her name. Seeing as she married Dr. Erde late in her 70's, long after her time in the spotlight faded, I doubt many people know her by that name. From the article, it seems even her first marriage in 1965 was after much of her fame. -- Tavix ^(talk) 03:14, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support as a major contributor. She also was Betty Skelton Frankman before her first husband died. Royal broil 05:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 09:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Betty & the Green Monster (1965)

https://books.google.de/books?id=TH41bjMO1esC&pg=PA119 https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/bonneville-national-speed-trials-ace-female-driver-betty-news-photo/163093800 --Virtualiter (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]