Talk:Bertha Mason (suffragist)

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Review: June 28, 2022. (Reviewed version).

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Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Need an image..

scope_creep^Talk 20:53, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

yes would be great! i wasn't able to find one Mujinga (talk) 11:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

one was found :) Mujinga (talk) 15:03, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Edwininlondon (talk · contribs) 07:03, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to take this one. I see there is also a fictional character with that name. I wonder if the suffragist's parents had read the book :) Should there be a link to the fictional character? And have you considered adding an Infobox? I will review properly over the weekend. Edwininlondon (talk) 07:03, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking on the review! Yes I suppose it's better having the disambig going both ways, so I've added it. On the infobox, I have no strong feelings either way, perhaps the recent addition of an image means there should be one now. Mujinga (talk) 12:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Overall good quality. Just a few minor comments.

lead: I think the lead is short but proportionally ok. However, I don't think "She was born to Betsey (née Buckley) .." belongs in the lead. Once that is removed the next sentence basically says what the first sentence says, so should go as well. Have a look at what else could go in the lead, because now it is getting quite short. Perhaps something like Influenced by her father's suffragist ..." but other things as well probably
- removed that sentence and added one about her postWWI activism. Mujinga (talk) 13:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - extended it a bit more Mujinga (talk) 14:13, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Early life:source says she was born in Ashton-under-Lyne, which is worth saying. It's a bit ambiguous to just say "grew up in Ashton-under-Lyne"
- done Mujinga (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Mason wrote in her book --> Would be good to say: Mason wrote in her 1912 book
- done Mujinga (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
in the late 1900s --> needs a rephrase I think as normally this refers to end of the 20th century
- chopped Mujinga (talk) 13:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
slide show --> magic lantern slide show
- that's a nice addition! Mujinga (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
She toured NUWSS groups giving the lecture --> She toured NUWSS groups, giving the lecture
- done Mujinga (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
became the basis of her book, published in 1912 --> drop the last bit if 1912 already mentioned at the start of the section
- done Mujinga (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
what I miss is a short bit, even just one line about when women obtained the vote in the UK. For context. Ideally we also have a quote from Mason following the success, but that is probably not available
- added a sentence; i haven't found a quote from her, perhaps she had moved on from suffragist activism after WWI, it's hard to say Mujinga (talk) 13:46, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is a bit on the short side, which is not stopping it from meeting the criteria, but if you like, you could consider adding a bit more. Here are some things I came across you might consider:

In 1894 she was the first woman to be elected to the Ashton board of guardians (Oxford Dictionary)
- I don't really understand what this board is. Do you think it's guardians of the town? Mujinga (talk) 13:46, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - aha! board of guardians explains that for me!! cool I'll add that in then Mujinga (talk) 14:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kate Frye was at her salons (Oxford Dictionary)
- added! Mujinga (talk) 13:46, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Crawford source has a bit more about what's in the book (p.389)
- added Lilias Ashworth Hallett - great to have more people as well as all the organisations Mujinga (talk) 13:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Good quality. Formatting ok. Spotcheck: 2 3 4 6

the DiCenzo reference needs an actual page number for the quote. 40–61 is too wide a range
- done! Mujinga (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Media

OK. No rights issues.

That's it. It was nice to learn about this person. Thank you for brining it to GAN. Edwininlondon (talk) 12:11, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the helpful commments - I hope I've actioned everything, see what you think Mujinga (talk) 14:15, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All fine. Nice work. I made a 2 minor tweaks, but I believe this now meets all the criteria. Promoting. Edwininlondon (talk) 10:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]