Talk:B. Frank Gordon

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On 21 June 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Benjamin Franklin Gordon to B. Frank Gordon. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 21 June 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 11:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Franklin Gordon → B. Frank Gordon – While doing some research for articles about Price's Raid and other topics, I've noticed that Gordon is usually referred to a "B. Frank Gordon" or "Frank Gordon" rather than Benjamin Franklin Gordon. Searches seem to confirm my impression that "B. Frank Gordon" is how Gordon is most commonly referred, so unless my instinct on what he's most commonly referred to as is wrong, I think WP:COMMONNAME supports B. Frank Gordon as the title. Hog Farm _Talk 03:12, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONNAME would apply. Based on what you say, "B. Frank Gordon" or "Frank Gordon" are probably better options - though which, is still a question. Some evidence might be useful. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 08:57, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per NGRAM[1] This is not the primary topic of "Frank Gordon" by usage in printed sources. (t · c) buidhe 13:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it probably needs to be looked at a little more closely than what ngrams allow us to do. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 00:41, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cinderella157 and Buidhe: - Based on the sources I have available at present, the Gbooks preview of Allardice's biographical register of Confederate colonels has "Benjamin Franklin Gordon", {{Cite McGhee 2008}} has "Benjamin F. Gordon", Monnett's Action Before Westport 1864 and Kirkman's Battle of Westport have the erroneous "Frank B. Gordon" (seems to be an error in Monnett that carried over through Kirkman using Monnett as a source), Sinisi's The Last Hurrah has Frank Gordon, The Collapse of Price's Raid has B. Frank Gordon, Shea's Fields of Blood has B. Frank Gordon, {{Cite Collins 2016}} has Frank Gordon, Wood's The Two Civil War Battles of Newtonia has B. Frank Gordon, Ezra J. Warner (historian)'s Generals in Gray has B. Frank Gordon, Daniel O'Flaherty's biography of Joseph O. Shelby has both "B. F. Gordon" and Frank Gordon. This article about First Newtonia] by Ed Bearss uses B. Frank Gordon. From a rough look, the [[Official Records of the War of the Rebellion] seems to prefer B. Frank Gordon. That's just the sources I've consulted for various articles that have Gordon in the index, but I think it's a reasonably valid sample. "Frank B." is an error and "Benjamin F."/"B. F."/"Benjamin Franklin" do not seem to be common variants. Of the other two, "B. Frank" seems to be the more common, although I will admit bias in that judgment, as I think B. Frank is the preferrable title. Hog Farm _Talk 01:25, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm, that is great and settles it for me. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 01:43, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to "B. Frank Gordon" per evidence provided by Hog Farm. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:45, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Compelling case made for COMMONNAME with Bearss and Warner usages. Evidence provided seems authoritative. BusterD (talk) 20:37, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.