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Whilst the subject has not played AFL, he has acquired numerous personal honors and achievements in the VFL that make him particularly notable in that category. In my submission the subject satisfies point three of the AFL notabilty criteria ("known, and has received significant coverage in reliable sources, for major individual achievements in a state football league" ). To reprise, in this case the main arguments for the player meeting point three of these criteria are 1) his being captain of three VFL clubs, 2) won VFL best and fairest club medal (best first year player the preceding year and runner-up following year) 3) selected in VFL representative teams and 4) articles about him in papers that meet criteria which 5) include the opinion that he is amongst the best players in the VFL. As mentioned, an article from a reliable source newspaper on this player winning the Carter medal VFL club best player award can be found here: http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/719111/duscher-wins-bendigo-bombers-club-champion-award/ I will try to tidy up the article so its squarely fits the criteria.The reason for the deadlinks is that Essendon has changed its web address and so many of the links will need to be repairedNimbusWeb (talk) 08:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Without making arbitrary rules, there are surely many ways in which VFL players can attain "major individual achievements" that satisfy wikiAFL point 3 in the context of the overarching criteria of notability for wikisportspeople: "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published, non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Major individual achivements on the VFL football field can be signified in many ways apart from the JJ Liston Medal and Premiership Captaincy- there are numerous medals, awards and prizes, representative honors that can be acquired in multiples or at levels of achievement that make them notable. Here the subject has had not just one but three captaincies, dual representative team selection, appointment as a paid coach of his fellow players and other achievements that have led the non-trivial, reliable, independent sources to create a considerable volume of publications about him. This subject has been discussed in country newspapers in Australia (such as here the 'Bendigo Advertiser', 'Mildura Weekly' and 'Sunraysia Daily') that meet the requisite standard of "non-trivial, reliable, independent sources." better in many ways than the major sources published by, for example the Murdoch Press in UK and Australia in recent times.NimbusWeb (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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