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Suggestions for article improvement

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Below is a list of suggested sections to add to the article:

  • Recording and production should convey the fact that, with this being Nicks' solo debut, the recording experience was a bit new for her, having always recorded either with Fleetwood Mac or with Lindsey Buckingham. It should convey that her producer and friend, Jimmy Iovine, did much to help things go well throughout the process. Her collaborations with Don Henley and Tom Petty should be mentioned, as should the contributions of other guest musicians.
  • Writing and composition should touch upon what Nicks was going through at the time with Fleetwood Mac and in her personal life that influenced the songs that went onto the album. It should expand upon the "sparse demos" mentioned in the opening, and the fact that some of these demos had been shelved for years; she was so prolific that she wrote more songs than could go onto Fleetwood Mac albums (since they tried to have a fair balance of songs from all three songwriters). The focus should not be on the composition of individual songs -- that would go into separate articles about the songs.
  • Promotion and Release should cover the album's release, including the singles, videos, and chart positions. Any publicity she did for the album should be mentioned here.
  • White Winged Dove Tour should mention the short-lived tour Nicks did for the album, cut short by the death of her friend Robin Snyder Anderson. If this section proves too short to stand on its own, it should be merged into the Promotion and Release section.
  • Critical Reception should quote notable reviews of the album from around the time of its release, on into the present day and how it is viewed by critics today.

In addition to all that, here are a few to-dos:

  • The opening It should be trimmed down so the most important things are still there, and the things of lesser importance should go into the body of the article itself.
  • The Miscellanea section needs to be removed per WP:TRIV. The info in that section needs to be put into the article in appropriate places.
  • Famous fans of the album may deserve mention (Courtney Love, Billy Corgan, etc.)
  • If quotes can be found from Nicks about the track order, it may deserve mention.
  • The album's effect on music and culture should be mentioned.

I think that covers my concerns about the article for now. I'll add more if I think of something else. - Carolyn81 20:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that most of the things you mentioned above are hard to verify and without adequate sources to confirm such information, it should not be included in the article.79.66.21.0 (talk) 11:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Early or late 1980?

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Pinging Visnvoisnvo...

The album started with Nicks writing some material in 1979, and collaborating on some songs. Nicks recorded some demos which were not used for the album, but they gave her an idea of what not to do. Biographer Zoë Howe writes that, after the Tusk tour ended on September 1, 1980, "during the warm, foggy October of 1980" the album finally entered its successful recording phase when a "family" of "hand-picked" musicians was assembled to record it, including session musician Waddy Wachtel on guitar. See Zoë Howe's Stevie Nicks: Visions Dreams & Rumours, page 206.

There are no reliable sources that say Nicks was working on the Bella Donna album in April 1980. Instead, there are unreliable self-published sites such as Shel's Stevie page Welsh Witch, telling us that Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks recorded several different demo versions of the song "Gypsy" during the first week of April 1980. There are also listed demo and outtake versions of "Bella Donna", "Think About It", "The Highwayman", "After The Glitter Fades" and "Edge of Seventeen" at the Welsh Witch website, with recording sessions taking place during various days in March, April and July 1980. Shel is not a reliable source, so we cannot use this stuff. We can only use reliable sources. Binksternet (talk) 23:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bella Donna (album)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The opening is fairly good, but it's a bit too long. The main body of the article needs a lot more info and should be broken up into relevant sections. My suggestions are on the album talk page. - Carolyn81 20:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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