Talk:Bell Cottage ruin

A fact from Bell Cottage ruin appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Jane Bell, one of the original occupants of Bell Cottage, was found guilty of concealing a birth and became the first European woman to be incarcerated on Rottnest Island?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bell Cottage ruin.

Wikipedia

Australia: Western Australia / Perth Low‑importance

	Australia portal Bell Cottage ruin is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Western Australia (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Perth (assessed as Low-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia, or the State Library of Western Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Historic sites Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Historic sites, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of historic sites on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Historic sitesWikipedia:WikiProject Historic sitesTemplate:WikiProject Historic sitesHistoric sites articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:03, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

... that, of the original occupants of the Bell Cottage, James Bell rose to prominence by being the person who raised the alarm during the Fenian escape from Fremantle Gaol while his wife Jane was the first European woman to be incarcerated on Rottnest Island? Source: Page 2: who raised the alarm during the now famous Fenian escape from Fremantle gaol and her brief incarceration on Rottnest Island. She was the first European woman to be sent to Rottnest
- ALT1:... that one the original occupants of the Bell Cottage, Jane Bell, was convicted of concealing a birth, conceived after having being raped, and became the first European woman to be incarcerated on Rottnest Island? Source: Page 2: conceived after her rape and her brief incarceration on Rottnest Island. She was the first European woman to be sent to Rottnest She was charged with concealing a birth and sentenced to two years imprisonment on Rottnest Island

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/LES-1

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

New enough, long enough, QPQ done. Earwig flagged a couple of areas of close paraphrasing. The hooks are too long. --evrik ^(talk) 03:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

evrik I have proposed a new, shorter hook below. In regards to paraphrasing, Earwig's Copyvio Detector registers 18% for the main source, Inherit, the highest reading. I'm not sure which areas of close paraphrasing you are specifically concerned with. Would it be possible to list them on the articles talk page and I will most certainly address them? Calistemon (talk) 04:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2:... that one the original occupants of the Bell Cottage, Jane Bell, became the first European woman to be incarcerated on Rottnest Island, having been convicted of concealing a birth? Source: Page 2: conceived after her rape and her brief incarceration on Rottnest Island. She was the first European woman to be sent to Rottnest She was charged with concealing a birth and sentenced to two years imprisonment on Rottnest Island

Alternatively, this may be more free-flowing:

ALT3:... that one the original occupants of the Bell Cottage, Jane Bell, was convicted of concealing a birth and became the first European woman to be incarcerated on Rottnest Island?

Either Alt 2 or Alt 3 are okay. The source with the 18% ... it had a number of closely copied passages. Can you rework some of that text? --evrik ^(talk) 04:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

evrik I have made a few adjustments and reduced it to 15%. I will do another little rework to reduce it a bit further. Calistemon (talk) 04:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

evrik I have tweaked the article a little further to reduce the number to under 10%. Is this satisfactory? Calistemon (talk) 09:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

--evrik ^(talk) 23:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]