Talk:Belfast Confetti (poem)

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poem

This is essentially an article about the poem, not about the shrapnel. The poem apparently won some major award, so this article appears keepable, needs massive cleanup. If it turns out that the poem is not notable, then this should just be redirected either to shrapnel or to the article on the poem's author. --Xyzzyplugh 18:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Belfast confetti" has nothing to do with the IRA or shrapnel.

It was a term used for the rivets and scrap metal Unionist shipyard workers would pelt Catholics with during anti-Catholic pogroms. The term predates the IRA by decades. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.226.230.36 (talk) 07:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note, for example, Ciarán Carson's own description at http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/schools/11_16/poetry/war.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.226.230.36 (talk) 07:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Further concrete doumentation of the original and correct definition of "Belfast confetti" can be found at:

Page 243, Northern Ireland: a report on the conflict, by the London Sunday Times Insight Team, 1972

Page 38, A Past Apart, by Anthony C. Hepburn, Ulster Historical Foundation, 1996

Page 110, Peace in Their Time, by Ruth Weiss, IB Tauris, 2000

Page 8, Too long a sacrifice: life and death in Northern Ireland since 1969, by Jack Holland, University of Michigan, 1981

Page 47, Mutiny at the Curragh, by Alfred Patrick Ryan, MacMillan, 1956 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.226.230.36 (talk) 07:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]