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The article's name should be changed to Beit Yehonatan.

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The corresponding Hebrew article: https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%91%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%AA%D7%9F

It's "Yehonatan" with an "He" after the "Yod". ברופלובסקי (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The internationally accepted spelling is Yonatan and therefore what should be used. If you do a search on google you get:
"Beit Yonatan" 3,050
"Beit Yehonatan" 2,130
Yonatan 712,000
Yehonatan 182,000
There is many ways you can transliterate something but wikipedia goes by what is internationally accepted spelling. You can also make the same argument on whether the first word should be Beit, Beis, Beth, etc.
This is why WP has redirects for those who search based on the alternative spellings. Its the same reason why Chanukah redirects to Hanukkah. - GalatzTalk 13:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just because a mistake is common doesn't mean it's not a mistake and most certainly doesn't mean wikipedia has to accept it. In this case, the 2130 results are correct and the 3050 aren't. Yodh-Waw-Nun-Tav-Nun: Yonatan. Yodh-He-Waw-Nun-Tav-Nun: Yehonatan. The name clearly is Yehonatan. The fact that Yonatan has more results than Yehonatan has nothing to do with this discussion, we're talking here about "Beit Yehonatan". ברופלובסקי (talk) 16:26, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I just found out something that clrealy settles it. From Jonathan Pollard's Hebrew article:

על פי עצת רבו, הרב מרדכי אליהו, הוסיף פולארד לשמו את האות "ה", ובחוגים הקרובים אליו מקפידים למלא את בקשתו להיקרא יהונתן; And Beit Yehonatan is named after him. ברופלובסקי (talk) 16:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is irrelevant. You are discussing the name of the article. WP's policy is you use whatever is most commonly used with an RS, please read WP:COMMONNAME. Whether you agree with the spelling or not has no baring on the article's title. What has more results is everything that matters in naming this, because WP's policy says so. If you want to propose a change, here are the list of the most influential english langue RS. Go through them, summarize your findings, and propose a change based on that.
Rank Source
1 AP
2 NY Times
3 Reuters
4 Wall Street Journal
5 Bloomberg
6 BBC
7 AFP
8 CNN
9 Washington Post
10 TMZ
11 Al Jazeera
12 The Guardian
13 LA Times
14 NY Post
15 Financial Times
16 ABC
17 Daily Mail
18 The Times
19 Politico
20 Fox
21 TIME
22 Times of India
23 The Telegraph
24 Hindustan Times
25 USA Today
I look forward to seeing the results of your research and your proposal based on relevant information from these RS'. - GalatzTalk 16:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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