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Pilot cast picture?

Does anyone think it's worth adding a picture of the original three actors from the pilot? As some form of comparison perhaps??? steveking89 00:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nina

could we add more to the nina character? E.g. She could quite easily also be a werewolf od something..does anyone know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.163.118 (talk) 01:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

well you must have saw end of ep6 s1 nina shows 4 slashes on her arm probably cause by george —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.39.79 (talk) 01:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

we cant add that in because its just your opinion not i fact. we just have to see what happens in the second season.talk —Preceding undated comment added 01:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

What he said. While there are the cuts, anything past that would be assumption/original research without a source stating specifics (such as if a writer said that she would be afflicted, etc). --Human.v2.0 (talk) 02:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There would be nothing wrong in describing the scene where George tells Nina how he became a werewolf—by being scratched by one—and how the camera then focuses on Nina's scratches that she received free George in the cellar. The writer and director is clearly suggesting to the audience that Nina's is in serious trouble. Graham Colm ^Talk 09:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, her interest in what it feels like to transform, and what exactly happens, would likely be a proving point for the fact that she is going to become / is a werewolf. And I personally doubt that the scratches were form George, as her shirt was not ripped. Also, she could see Annie in the hospital staircase, whereas she could not see her in the house, suggesting that she was scratched at a previous time. After all, only Supernaturals can see ghosts, right?Anson Stark (talk) 18:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

but didnt janey and owen see annie when they were been haunted. So surely Nina might be able to see her aswell !!!

Anybody object to Nina being promoted to a primary character? So far, episode 2 appears to have elevated her status.

I'd be more in favor of culling any season 1 characters that only appeared in one episode and are unlikely to return (Bernie, Tully, etc.) to avoid that section getting overly cluttered. I think the primary characters should be limited to the original three, though. SeahawkTim (talk) 05:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Viewing figures

the blurb says episode 6 viewing figures were a series high, yet ep1 seems to have more viewers Brianbrian321 (talk) 22:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting characters

Why does the actor Jason Watkins (Herrick) link to an American footballer of the same name? Moixa (talk) 21:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because no-one has created an article for JW the actor yet. I'm writing up a stub this week. - Dann Chinn (talk) 08:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death

in the last episode season 2 episdoe 2 the entity on the radio said men with their black black feathers on their black, black wings. and implied they were waiting. so that should be added. Also the assertion that any ghost could get their life back by getting Annie through the door , is highly subjective as far as we know Saul was a unique case. it is also not known if Saul was resurrected especially for the task of getting Annie through the door, that is an opinion. it may have been a simply near death experiences the first time he died.Also the entity says you don't want our rascals coming out there so that should proberly be added too —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.64.91 (talk) 17:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Filming Locations

I've shared a map called Being Human Locations: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=115312489321719301510.00047edb52782a7db34ff

I would like people to be able to add locations, or you can link to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.130.29 (talk) 14:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pilot vs. Final Cast

Does anyone know why the two changes between the pilot and final cast? Andrea Riseborough was, I thought, a much better fit and a better actress. I've noticed quite a few shows now where the lead actress is changed between the pilot and the series, and rarely does it seem to be for the better. If anyone knows of any source material that gives some insight into the changes, I think the article would be the better for it. --Kurt (talk) 00:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IIRC, Andrea Riseborough became very much in demand shortly after the pilot aired (she went on to appear in The Devil's Whore and one of the spate of Margaret Thatcher docudramas, among other things), so it was just a case of them not signing her up in time. Presumably this was partly because Being Human only got commissioned as a full series on the second round of BBC3 signups (after the Phoo Action debacle). I'm not sure if precisely the same situation applies to the recasting of Mitchell and Herrick, but presumably it's similar. Having said that, they did try and steer the series away from a more predictably Gothic or melodramatic tone, so I would imagine that casting Jason Watkins as Herrick had something to do with that. (Generally he plays social misfits, losers and weak/creepy marginal characters, so having him play a deceptively normal-looking but powerful and ruthless vampire was something of a masterstroke) - 08:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I didn't like the actress who played Annie initially at all, maybe it was the Northern accent. Obviously though, Aiden was absolutely amazing and Jason as Herrick absolutely nailed it as well, amazing actor. I thought that Lenora did a really good job of portraying a kind of obsessive agoraphobe, and she had a humbleness about her that the first actress lacked. 82.32.11.95 (talk) 22:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article is bloated

The article is bloated with cruft, the Vampire, Werewolf, Ghost sections need to be reduced to one paragraph each. In fact I'm not sure why the Werewolf section is so large because that expository paragraph explains pretty much everything about Werewolves, but then someone went and poorly expanded upon that paragraph in the section. And the same thing happened in the other similar sections. --Xero (talk) 09:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, needs a rewrite and cutdown. --Cameron Scott (talk) 10:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although there have already been some trims to the article since this problem was raised (cutting down on the bloat), I think that there is now enough mythology connected to the program to warrant some more subsidiary articles for the series treatment of Vampires, Werewolves, Ghosts and Doors/Gatekeepers. I am creating text for these articles based on previous edits (although I'm also editing for flow) and am using the same format as used for the Vampire (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) Wiki. Naturally, those articles will probably be challenged in the same way that the Buffy article was, so for those of us interested in maintaining a BH-verse set of Wiki articles it'll be in our interests to add appropriate references and minimising absolute fancruft. (Note that the last nomination for deletion for the Buffyverse Vampire article was two years ago, so the approach which they are following there is probably the right one by consensus).- Dann Chinn (talk) 13:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What a terrible idea - can you provide multiple independent reliable sources for each of these articles? Where is the critical commentary coming from? etc etc If not, they will head straight off to AFD or be merged back here. --Cameron Scott (talk) 14:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments noted. Obviously sourcing and referencing will need to be present, hence my points within my previous post. - Dann Chinn (talk) 08:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You need to make sure it's not based purely on primary sources. --Cameron Scott (talk) 09:18, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also noted, and I'm looking for more sourcing. Anyone else reading this who would be interested in helping to appropriately back up and support the articles is invited to get in touch.

The idea is to avoid bloating out the main article by providing appropriately-edited support articles containing the extra details, eventually linked by a nav panel in the manner of other articles on extended fictional universes (eg, Marvel comics, Buffyverse, Doctor Who etc). Obviously all such articles should be tightly-edited and coherent to avoid too much waffle and fancruft. Previously the Being Human article has been enthusiastically contributed to but tighter editing is only happening now. - Dann Chinn (talk) 13:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lenora Crichlow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/beinghuman/2010/10/the_last_day.html Umitencho (talk) 18:53, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That video can't be viewed by people outside the UK. What does it say that's relevant to the article? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's just a video of Lenora Crichlow saying how emotional people get on the last day of filming, nothing of worth for the page. steveking89 17:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Steve. I wonder why Umitencho thought it was worth mentioning here? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Second Hospital Location

I've added a second location to Glenside, Bristol for the filming of hospital scenes when the show was based in Bristol. When I was living at Glenside a while ago they filmed in the main teaching building for some episodes in Season two, as well as Bristol General. Regards Ball00naticFan (talk) 21:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant! I live in Bristol so it'll be interesting to see where these places are in location to me. The only place I recognised on the TV series was St Nicholas area. I think maybe this link should be in the article for the 'See also' stuff? 82.32.11.95 (talk) 22:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What About Guiness?

Being Human has won the Guiness (If I spelled the word wrong my apologies) world record for highest rated science fiction genre on Metacritic. com. I would suggest that somebody should put that down. I would but I can't figure out how to create hyperlinks and am afraid that the information would be deleted. -James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.156.18 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spinoff "Becoming Human"

Why spinoff page "Becoming Human" redirect to main page "Being Human"? I think it's a mistake, Becoming Human, linked in spinoff section of Beinh Human page, should have an original page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.55.85.118 (talk) 10:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"really excellent"

"really excellent" in the opening paragraph is an opinion and not a fact. Let us confine ouselves to facts in this encyclopedia. I have removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicmaker (talk • contribs) 08:02, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That was just the result of a few IP vandal edits today. Other edits today included this and this. I've reverted the page back to the start of today. Themeparkgc Talk 08:14, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Additions

For a while now, the page has been flagged re requirements to add a synopsis/plot summary, a production section and a character section. Being Human is now a well-established and well-respected TV series and deserves a fuller article.

I've added a plot summary, and character sections are being developed by various people in related articles. Does anyone have any more production information? (We also need to brush up on references). I'm going to create a portal to link the various BH articles, which should help with expansion. I'd also like to suggest that several characters now deserve their own standalone articles - Mitchell, George, Annie, Nina and Herrick - as the characters article is getting a little lengthy. - Dann Chinn (talk) 13:46, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see that a portal exists already. That'll help. :-) - Dann Chinn (talk)

Flagged for overlong plot summary

This criticism will be addressed when the episode/season articles are expanded or created, following which the content of the plot summary can be reduced. - Dann Chinn (talk) 21:17, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction by Toby Whithouse

I deleted this whole section as it is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. (See WP:NOT.) I suppose if it were differently marked up it might pass muster (i.e. it would have to be properly quoted and sourced) but WP is not (among other things) a place for original work. Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 19:42, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Annie Sawyer

I've given Annie Sawyer her own character page due to the amount of material, and previous discussion on the "List of Being Human characters" talk page. If anyone has more reliable sources in regards to characterisation (i.e from writers) or reception that would be great. I also tried to upload a promotional image, but think I messed up on the licensing there. Eshlare (talk) 11:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes: individual articles and navbox

I've made a start on setting up a system for individual episodes, including an "episodes" navbox to add to the portal. I've also roughed out and added the first two episode articles, for The Monsters Inside and Flotsam and Jetsam. Some aspects still need to be improved (a better infobox, for starters, and a more consistent use of punctuation for the article titles) but I thought that this development was overdue and would provide more space to properly record episode information details than the current "episodes" article does. This also opens up options for some further changes: these include articles summarising each individual series and also a further separation between the British and American versions. - Dann Chinn (talk) 12:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Series 5 casting

"Now comes news of a new nasty character, one who goes by the name of Captain Hatch. A human ex-military type described by the actor behind him as “marvellously disgusting”, Hatch is the most recent new addition to the series five cast. The man playing him? Familiar face of UK film and TV, Phil Davis (Silk, Sherlock, Doctor Who, Alien 3, Quadrophenia…)."

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/being-human/22314/do-we-know-the-identity-of-being-human%E2%80%99s-series-5-villain — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.107.240.36 (talk) 18:14, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alex's surname

Never mind Mayhew, where has Millar come from? I've watched the scenes three times and the camera does not get anywhere near close enough to Alex's file or its newspaper clippings to read any surname. U-Mos (talk) 18:49, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Canceled????

Why does the lead sentence treat this series as a current, ongoing series? Why is there a notation to NOT use the past tense as is done with all other canceled series? The use of the present tense sent me looking for new episodes, when, in fact, the series has been canceled. Here is the notation: "Being Human is --Per MOS, please do not change to was--" My question is who is MOS and why is MOS demanding this not be changed? N0w8st8s (talk) 05:37, 26 June 2016 (UTC)n0w8st8s[reply]

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Anyone familiar with this series care to add it to this list?

Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy works (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This series would qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible (talk) 18:00, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have added it. --Dynara23 (talk) 22:01, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]