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This article is awful, for which I apologise -- but I hope that it is better than what was there before. I think the major problem with this article is that the topic of the article necessarily cuts across biology, sociology, psychology, and cultural studies, all at once -- an experimental fact, interpreted in an anthropomorphic way, used as a metaphor for human society, taken up by academia and popular culture, from Scientific American and Mumford to Batman and 2000 AD. Can anyone who knows something about any of these subjects improve this article, please? -- The Anome (talk) 00:31, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems okay. I might suggest finding another title for the heading "Rat to human comparison". Maybe "Reactions" or "Criticisms"? Kortoso (talk) 21:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that the film The Matrix has an oblique reference to Calhoun's research. Approximate dialog from the movie: "The original matrix was designed to be a paradise, where none suffered...it was a disaster! Whole crops were lost, as people kept trying to wake up. Some said that we lacked the programming language to describe your ideal existence, but I think that human beings define their reality through suffering." It would be interesting if any documented reference to Calhoun could be found in the materials (interviews with screenwriters/producers, etc) connected to that film. Cellodont (talk) 13:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Detail of Universe 25 - why not in this article?

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Surely there should be a full dissertation regarding this highly significant experiment, in this article? Boscaswell talk 02:22, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Biblical Reference Legit?

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The Book of Revelation discussion does not appear to be in the reference cited, or have any other relevance. Not trying to edit as maybe I am missing something but seems very out of place here. Shoobe01 (talk) 18:19, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Meta-talk experiment applied to the internet.(social media))

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Meta-talk a key bit of empirical knowledge you should all use as a basis for other philosophies or insight or understandings so please tell me what you we're thinking as you watch this.

    Things to think about is how this applies to the internet and how basically with the overpopulation of our of our interaction with so many people that limits any real connection. Only in overcrowded masses with manipulated scenarios can we devolve into our worst selves. Metasynapsal (talk) 14:45, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have a related thought about this. I was reading about Vitamin D and it's central importance to general health and metabolism. Without which, people are likely to lapse into depression and present with a various illness and conditions.
Coming across this article, it occurred to me that Calhoun's experiment took place indoor within a barn. While the intention is to protect the rats from the elements, on reflection, this prescription might not be representative of the ideal living condition.
No, I do not think the experiment has any merits for understanding behaviours unless replicated with sufficient sun exposure factored in. Haaaa (talk) 18:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Long Quotation

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The long quotation of Calhoun's experiments might be better off if replaced with a clear summary --OtherwiseDrummer (talk) 03:25, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images

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I think it would it be nice to have some images on the side to help us visualize what the experiments looked like especially Universe 25. And it would helpful brief descriptions under the images. ~~~~ HandyAndy474$ (talk) 01:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The following sources are the same source:

"Population Density and Social Pathology" (PDF). Scientific American. Archived (PDF) from the original on 2019-11-21. Retrieved 2015-12-14.
Calhoun, John B. (1962). "Population density and social pathology". Scientific American. 206 (3): 139–148. doi:10.1038/scientificamerican0262-139 (inactive 31 January 2024). PMID 13875732.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: DOI inactive as of January 2024 (link)
Calhoun, J. B. (1970). "Population density and social pathology". California Medicine. 113 (5): 54. PMC 1501789. PMID 18730425.

They should be listed only once.42.116.43.19 (talk) 19:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Criticism mentioned

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The conditions of the experiments were criticized many times. Critics found many vulnerabilities in the studies. Starting from the questionable quality of biological material and ending with a "closed" space, detached from the natural environment. Yet none of that is mentioned in any way in this article... Shion-ko (talk) Shion-ko (talk) 00:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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At least one of the sources on this article is some random blog going on a racist screed. Article needs work. 2601:14D:5200:9910:F4E7:22C9:F0F6:2075 (talk) 01:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]