Talk:Beatrice Webb/Archive 1

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The article had Cat tag for Br. Labour pols, but the article says nothing to indicate that she qualified for Category:Politicians and its descendants.
--Jerzy•t 20:13, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

She was a founder of the Fabian Society, which led to the formation of the Labour Party...So I think the category tag was probably justified... Anyway, there needs to be more on her books - hopefully someone who's read them will come by and write about them?Zigzig20s 06:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Did she write the rabbit books? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.76.202 (talk) 20:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

No, that was Beatrix Potter (not Beatrice). Valetude (talk) 15:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Beatrice and signature of declaration against women's right sin 1889

I can't fins the source, but i read that BW had signe din 1889 a joint declaration with many other women opposing further extension of women's rights. Does anyone have a source on this, because it would be an important point/ Johncmullen1960 (talk) 08:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Title "Lady Passfied"

Beatrice Webb never used her title - she regarded Sidney's ennoblement as an unfortunate necessity but refused to use "Lady Passfield" herself. See her diary entry for June 20th 1929. [1] Timrollpickering (talk) 13:47, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I fully support this comment. If Beatrice Webb did not use the title Lady Passfied, or expect others to do so, it should not be given prominence in this article -- and certainly should not constitute a heading to a photograph taken years before she met and married Sidney Webb. John Crowfoot (talk) 04:23, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Organization

I tried to organize this article chronologically, given my own time constraints, as well as take out many passive constructions and some of the editorials about her later blind eye to Stalin's excesses. IMHO, the article desperately needs citations, and an editor more knowledgeable than me about her work (since my memory in this area's decades old and the London School of Economics has drifted to the right).Jweaver28 (talk) 23:46, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Info about her husband moved to the "Family" section

When writing an article about a woman historically significant enough to have an article about her in Wikipedia, please do not put into the second (!) and the third sentence information about her marital status and her spouse. This is probably not the most important data on her life. Otherwise, we would have to create articles about spouses of all the outstanding men in Wikipedia.

Except for that, her spouse is already mentioned on the card (among quite a few data of other kind), which is (naturally) also placed at the beginning of the article.

I moved that info about her husband to the "Family" section. Thank you for your patience and understanding. --Olena Zakharian (talk) 19:06, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Query about Snyder / Brown quotation

Don't know if the online diaries of Beatrice Webb are easily searchable.

Working through the text, especially as it concerns the Webbs' attitude to the Soviet Union, I could not find a convincing source for her alleged comment about the Moscow Show Trials (1936-1938) to the effect that Stalin "had cut out the old wood".

When the trials first began there is a diary entry for 28 August 1936 that expresses quite a different and alarmed attitude to the proceedings. So where did Timothy Snyder (2011) and his secondary source Archie Brown (2009) get this phrase from? I'd like to see some proof ...

John Crowfoot (talk) 03:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

My Creed and My Craft

These quotations from the preface to Our Partnership offer a curious and important dimension to Beatrice Webb's worldview, the element of religious mysticism. It finds an echo at the end of her life in the shrine to Lenin described by her niece Kitty's husband Malcolm Muggeridge, who retained a sceptical but affectionate view of Mrs Webb.

This links further to BW's admiring words about Annie Besant who passed from secularism to socialism and, beyond, to Theosophy and the movement for Indian independence from the British Empire.

John Crowfoot (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Racism

I think that the section on “Racism” is devoid of strong support and might spread baseless gossip and rumors. In the absence of further evidence, I would suggest dropping it. --Gitz6666 (talk) 16:11, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Surtsicna deleted the word on 30/4/2021.

The two

When the two Webbs heard about the huge number of prisoners in the Soviet camps, they were puzzled. They thought that there were only about a dozen capitalists in the entire Soviet Union.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:4E9F:D101:993A:9974:C13D:81D (talk • contribs) 14:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)