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Pre-Columbian Beards?

This article is conspicuously missing information about beards in the Americas in the Pre-Columbian era. 95.146.59.90 (talk) 01:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's impossible for Native American men to grow beards.

Caucasians were initially called "hairy bearded men with an extra bone in their forehead, sunken eyes and hooked noses" by Native Americans.

Asians also noticed the same racial differences. 2600:1702:4910:4EB0:848F:79FB:A424:D83B (talk) 18:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Worth cross-editing with Facial hair?

The Facial hair article is quite short, so a particularly keen editor of this article might like to check it out and make some expansions. Sxologist (talk) 11:44, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beards and attractiveness

Came here expecting at least some information on perception of beards, particularly on attractiveness and popularity across different societies, in different periods, and also in different subpopulations (e.g. different sexual orientations). This would surely be relevant and deserving of a section, would it not? (I have no information to contribute though unfortunately, beyond my personal opinion on them which is obviously not encyclopaedia content) Anditres (talk) 06:52, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox image

There has been a history of images used on the infobox. I don't have time for the full story, but recently it was changed from Jack Passion [1], to Richard Stallman [2], to an unnamed person [3], back to Stallman, [4] then some random guy's selfie. [5]. I have removed the image for now and inserted a note to not add any image before a consensus can be formed here. 0xDeadbeef 18:41, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion would be this.

The beard is the focus of the image, it's not of anyone famous, and is very high quality. (Hohum ^@) 13:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, though it is drawn, which might be an issue. I don't care which image is used, there should just be an image in the infobox. Holzklöppel (talk) 23:48, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This image is my preference as well. Generalrelative (talk) 15:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP 69.166.44.3, will you please explain why you keep removing this image, claiming in your edit summarie that it is "ugly" or "bad"? It seems to me to be a high quality image. Further, it seem to be appropriate for this page for the other reasons stated by Hohum above. Generalrelative (talk) 06:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reinstate image until a replacement is found

Since there is no replacement image right now, I will reinstate the version including the image of Stallman which is appropriately licensed. The article should have an image detailing its subject, temporary removal is not the best option since this is a rather general article with potentially lots of traffic. Holzklöppel (talk) 19:55, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Holzklöppel: Does the infobox need an image at all? If someone wants to know what a beard looks like, wouldn't they just scroll down and see illustrations for different kinds of beards? 0xDeadbeef 04:00, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll copy one of these into the infobox. The it's prominently displayed on both WP and other sites which process information from it, like DuckDuckGo. Holzklöppel (talk) 23:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More information?

First of all: The only race with the ability to grow facial hair is the Caucasian race. Asians and Native Americans initially called Caucasians "hairy bearded people with an extra bone in their forehead, sunken eyes, and hooked noses". Growing a beard is a sign of Caucasian supremacy. Notable Caucasian supremacist groups, such as the Taliban, wear beards. Second of all, who wrote this article? °Name °Email or phone °Age °Race °Nationality °Job It would really help me understand what the heck this is all about. 2600:1702:4910:4EB0:848F:79FB:A424:D83B (talk) 18:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your second question is not permitted, and is also irrelevant. WP:V and WP:RS means all content comes from reliable published sources, not our own personal knowlege, analysis, or understanding. And much of your first comment similarly has no value here, because it does not have a cited reliable-source for it. And the first premise is manifestly total nonsense and includes borderline-racist myths. DMacks (talk) 19:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prevalence

Think we need some statistics on what proportion of men worldwide have a beard. Even better would be a colour-coded map. 92.16.43.192 (talk) 09:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]