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"Discovery"

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The article currently states "The mountain was discovered in 1896 by Percy Sykes and Brazier Creagh;[6] back then its volcanic nature was already known.[7]"

I think there are a few problems with this sentence. (I don't have access to reference 6 (Tchermak's 1956) so I can't check that source).

  • (1) Discovery. Bearing in mind how e.g. Western European men spent much of history allegedly "discovering" places that indigineous people had known about for centuries, is "discovered" the most accurate and appropriate word? Possible alternatives are "surveyed" or "climbed".
  • (2) Reference 6 (Tchermak's 1956) apparently states "discovered in 1896 by Percy Sykes and Brazier Creagh" but reference 7 (Reclus 1906) states that the mountain was climbed (not discovered, by the way) by Molesworth Sykes on 1 January 1894, so references 6 and 7 appear contradictory.
  • (3) I think the phase "back then" is too colloquial for a Wikipedia article. I suggest that "back then its volcanic nature was already known" should be changed to something along the lines of "By 1906, the volcanic nature of the mountain had been accepted by geologists". I hesitate to make such a change myself because I don't know the details within the Tchermak's 1956 source yet.

GeoWriter (talk) 09:06, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look soon. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:09, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
GeoWriter Regarding point #1, I agree that "discovered" is questionable. I'd replace it with "climbed" on the basis of Reclus 1906 to avoid the issue. As for #3, the article does not say much about the research history, it just states that the mountain is a volcano without elaborating who discovered it. The exact text translated is The next target was the 3488m high extinct Bazman volcano, between Koh-i-Sultan and Taftan, the most difficult to reach among the Southern Iran volcanoes. Since its discovery by Sir Pearcy Sykes and Brazier Creagh in 1896 no European had climbed it anymore.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:31, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]