Talk:Bayside, Dublin

Corrections

Someone recently made three errors, which may have looked like vandalism but were probably not:

two-storey (correct) was changed to two-story
a picture of a key feature of the Bayside coastline, Kilbarrack Church and Graveyard was removed. This was accompanied by a reference to it being in Sutton Park, which is not correct - Sutton Park is a housing estate behind it, and anyway, as per main article, Sutton Park is part of Bayside, not a different area in its own right (and not part of Sutton, despite the name - Sutton begins, as it has for over five hundred years, no closer than the Baldoyle Road).
the above action was commented in the text of the article!

All of the above are now fixed. 83.250.203.10 23:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kilbarrack history, school

Gone southside but is there not a non-denominational school about in Bayside, worth a mention? And I think there is a book which has a lot to say about the old graveyard, albeit that is more of Kilbarrack's history. An AnCO project I think, back in the black 70's or 80's. And on the planning matter mentioned, perhaps a link? Or has a decision now been made? 195.16.40.133 23:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bayside = Kilbarrack Lower. Hence Kilbarrack graveyard is in Bayside. Look at a pre-OSI map of the area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.58.109 (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements / updates

The article is not bad now but could use:

1-2 more photos - for example of the "Lamb Chop" park or the Community Garden, around the DART, some of the "green lanes"...
a little more of the history - who developed, what the concept was, and of the Community initiatives
maybe something about the excellent internal structure, with rare-in-Dublin lanes everywhere; it is one of the most walkable / least car-dependent later suburbs
along with a little more on the old Kilbarrack graveyard, a mention of the milestone

What would also be useful, if any source referenced it, is the actual area - e.g. some coverage of the fact that Bayside is a bit of an inland island, which somehow never fully included the houses on the coast road, from the corner at Kilbarrack Road to the border with Baldoyle. The developer-driven confusion with Sutton (whether at Sutton Cross or at the Baldoyle Road) is well-known locally but similarly poorly documented. SeoR (talk) 10:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The developer was a major UK outfit, later Tory Party donor, Wates Group, who had a whole Irish branch based at their first Irish build, in Clontarf, and a solicitor office in Dublin. They did a decent job, though the wood fronting on some of the houses did not age well. But for the time, they were all centrally-heated, with some kind of insulation. Does not sound like much but it was not standard then. Less well-built than the Farrelly houses in Raheny but better than some in Sutton. Of course they tried to sell as @Sutton@ but we all knew that was just messing, as much as the claim of sea swimming on the doorstep. But Dollyer and Sutton Strand were reachable by no-hassle bus trips. And as you say above, the houses on the seafront never "joined" but remained resolutely "Dublin Road", no district in particular - but the deeds still say Kilbarrack. One other thing that might be good for an encyclopaedia, the Wates people had three tiers of housing project - when we were buying, Bayside was "lower cost", Dundrum "mid-price" and Cabinteely (yes, what was that about?) "premium"! They had done other areas over the preceding 20 years too. Oh, and each type of house had a name. We had a Victorian or Virginian, the "top" class in Bayside. Later they also built maisonettes, not much known then in Ireland. Wates really weren't a bad shower, they made the "green lanes of Bayside", mini-parks, buried cables, and won a fight with the Government to allow a shared TV aerial instead of bits of metal on every house. They left Ireland in the 1980's, I believe. Thanks, 89.100.109.110 (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, will study this. I vaguely remember hearing of this company. SeoR (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]