Talk:Bay of Plenty (National Provincial Championship)

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This article was nominated for merging with Bay of Plenty Rugby Union on 2020-09-03. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was No mergers.

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I am proposing that BOP Steamers be merged into the BOPRU page so that they follow the precedent set by the other RU's in NZ. Furthermore templates such as the Air NZ Cup one link to BOPRU and not BOP Steamers as they probably technically should. Mattlore (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per other rugby unions in New Zealand. – Liveste (talk • edits) 01:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree - certainly pointless having two articles. BTW do we have a reference as to when the name steamers was adopted? dramatic (talk) 08:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This issue has come up again as the Steamers page has been re-created without discussion. Mattlore (talk) 01:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)\[reply]

Since the situation is different now (as previously both pages were the same, now they're separate pages for separate entities), I think a new round of voting is in order, hence I have placed my vote in a new section. Gialloneri (talk) 12:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (Second round)

Disagree* - I was all for the merger before the re-creation, however this was when the BOPRU page effectively was a Steamers page. Since they are both separate entities and both articles are written as such, they merit separation. Case in point - NZRU and All Blacks are not the same page. I'd also suggest re-linking where appropriate (urgh), ie Steamers for the NPC templates/pages, BOPRU for instances such as the NZRU page. Also should probably note that I am a Steamers fan, but I'd vote the same if the same work was done for the Lions/Taniwha/Turbos etc. Gialloneri (talk) 12:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose merge. I'm in the same waka. The first time 'round I supported merging because that's what was done with the other provincial unions. But now there seems to be enough information to support separate articles on these two related but distinct organisations. I'm a Steamers fan too, but I'd also support the creation of separate articles for individual Air NZ Cup teams. Cheers. – Liveste (talk • edits) 08:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I agree somewhat, I think if this page is to stay then someone needs to go through and sort out the templates properly. This page has had a lot of work done on it since I (re)proposed the merge, and I think in its current for it could probably stay. It just needs to be sorted out properly. And I'm glad a discussion has started rather than just editors deleting the template (not that it was you guys) Mattlore (talk) 10:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the merge template from Bay of Plenty Rugby Union, as there hasn't been any real support for a merger this time around. Cheers. – Liveste (talk • edits) 23:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal (September 2020)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was no merger. After discussions here, here, here and in the past the main consensus is for Mitre 10 Cup sides to have separate pages from their unions. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 12:52, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to merge Bay of Plenty Steamers into Bay of Plenty Rugby Union. This would put this page back in line with other Mitre 10 Cup sides. The current squad and history can easily be merged into the main Bay of Plenty rugby union page (with some added sources for verification) to match other Mitre 10 pages. Stadia information can be added and a more compact previous season history can also be added (similar to that on the Tasman Rugby Union page). I don't see why this side (and Auckland rugby union team which I'm also requesting a merge for) should be different from other sides. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:12, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: We're over 10 year since the page had a previous merge proposal, in that time no other pages have been created as separate entities for Mitre 10 Cup sides. As this hasn't been done, I believe a merger would be appropriate for the reasons I've suggested above. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:59, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.