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Neutrality

"Battle of Murino" and "Velika attacks" mention "Albanians or Ottomans attacking Montenegrins" even though it was the other way around, the territory was under Ottoman control and Montenegro was trying to seize control. Also, the casualties' proportions such as 36 to 1400 or 86 to 1000 are little reliable. Since the article has three main pieces (the Battle of Novsice is far better written and way more decisive), in overall it contradicts their outcome. As a matter of fact, Montenegro managed to annex the area only after the Serbian armies invaded it during the First Balkan War in 1912. It gives the impression that these two battles were so minimal as not to affect the course of history, or the articles are based on non-neutral sources.--Mondiad (talk) 05:17, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ottomans were obliged to cede the territories, thus the territories were de jure Montenegrin territory. I do think the casualties' are unreliable. Take it at the respective talk page.--Zoupan 06:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]