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[edit]- Due to the remote location of the battle and chance encounter on open ocean, neither fleet had air or submarine assistance, making this the only engagement exclusively between surface ships in the Pacific Theatre, and the last pure gunnery duel in naval history. - ehm... And what about battle of Savo island? (and many other battles during Salamon campaign...)
- This article represents imho US-point of view. It's only about actions of US Navy ships and the enemy is mentioned only as Japan/japanese. Actions of Salt Lake City and another US vessels are described, but there is nothing about Nachi, Maya, Tama, Abukuma (and 4 destroyers)
--Sceadugenga 08:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Your objections are valid so, please feel free to fix the article. A complete list of credible references and sources are listed. Some of them are even on the web, so you don't have to go to the library or bookstore to get them. The Combinedfleet.com links give the Japanese POV, but without great detail. Cla68 08:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- I just read over the Battle of Savo Island page, and it actually mentions quite a bit of involvement by air and submarine assets on both sides. Allied planes and subs sighted the Japanese force a few times and tried to report them, while Japanese aircraft dropped flares to support their surface ships during the battle itself. Dunno if you want to count those as examples Masterblooregard (talk) 22:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- But none, however, in Surigao Strait. Ravenswing 09:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hi! Someone updated the sentance about "the only engagement" - ok ^_^ (and now, the saga continues - after 3 years ^_^) But just for info: there was at least one plane in this battle and therefore if you count with reconnaissence and spotting planes you can't even count this battle as "pure gunnery duel": The NACHI was the only ship carrying aircraft, and she was ordered to launch planes. She was very slow in complying and the order to open fire was given before she had her planes off. The Japanese opened fire at about 0540, slightly ahead of the Americans. The first salvo of the NACHI ruined the two single float, two-seat Type Zero spotting planes on the starboard catapult. These were jettisoned. The plane on the port catapult, however, was undamaged and was launched. This was a twin float, three-seat Type Zero reconnaissance seaplane. It was the only Japanese plane airborne in the battle area, served as a spotting plane throughout the engagement, and landed at ATTU. (citation from interrogation of Commander Kintaro MIURA, NAV NO. 21, USSBS NO. 98 [1]) --Sceadugenga (talk) 08:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- I would like to interject at this point the similarity between the Japanese commanders here and many other engagements breaking off too early after suffering minor damage and effectively losing the battles through their timidity. And then trying to make up for it by either personal suicide or forlorn suicidal attacks (like the last sortie of the Yamato). It was a cultural thing, not "luck" as certain authors have called it. The Japanese were not fools, unlucky, or incompetent; but, time and time again, something in the psychology of many of their senior officers made them quit too soon. Look up the appendices in Shattered Swords by Paschall for a partial discussion of this in relation to the related "victory disease". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.187.204.83 (talk) 15:36, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
This is just information
[edit]This is just information. Most of you may ignore. "Battles around the Aleutian Islands from Japanese side views: 6.Battle of the Komandorski Islands" might include additional information on Battle of the Komandorski Islands. This is based on many original materials, most of them are the Japanese official documents (in Japanese) though. https://al-from-japan.blogspot.com/2021/08/the-sea-battle-of-commander-islands-6-1.html Linking to blogs is seemed to be prohibited. So, I put it on the discussion note.
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