Talk:Battle of Thaw Le Hta

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Notability as its own article (WP:EVENT)

Not sure this event is notable on its own. Prior to this attack the Kachin Independence Army had already attacked Tatmadaw positions in response to the 2021 February coup. If there is an escalation in violence and the conflict becomes nationwide (i.e. includes Bamar areas instead of just the frontier areas), it certainly wasn't because of this one attack. If it was it would have happened already. The implied importance (in the last sentence) is speculative on the editor's part. This event can be summarised in one paragraph at Karen conflict and Internal conflict in Myanmar#Kayin State, which it already has been. CentreLeftRight ✉ 23:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are mostly right and that this article should not just include the battle at the camp, but I could not find as many good sources on the other skirmishes, so I published the article in its current state to be later edited. However, the battle at the camp is notable for its escalation, an entire camp being captured by an organised armed force. As for my overstressing of the battle's importance, I will rephrase the section to lessen its importance, though as previously stated, it is an escalation.-Lucius Cornelius Balbus April 28 08:13 GMT Lucius Cornelius Balbus (talk) 07:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 2021

Regarding this revert: I looked through the two sources given and none of them describe this skirmish as the largest or most serious escalation/clash since the coup or at that time in April. This is completely self-analysis. The KIA attacked multiple Tatmadaw positions and captured several outposts from March to April, but even those events do not have their own articles. I see nothing in the sources given that credits this skirmish in particular between the KNU and Tatmadaw with such importance. The only notable detail of this skirmish is that the KNU/KNLA were under a ceasefire agreement and they violated it in response to the coup. Furthermore, regarding the comments made in late March about an escalation to a civil war, they're talking specifically about a potential spread to the majority-Bamar areas unaffected by the fighting. Myanmar has been in civil conflict for over seven decades, and the KNU represents one of several dozen rebel groups. Their activities are limited to their bases in the frontier areas, primarily Kayin/Karen State. There is no direct connection between the comments made in March and this April skirmish, especially since the former came prior. CentreLeftRight ✉ 01:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]