Talk:Battle of Rudau

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Did you know... that according to a local legend, shoemaker Hans von Sagan heroically took the initiative and led the Teutonic Knights to victory in the Battle of Rudau?

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Someone at the DYK discussion for this article brought up some good sources, you might want to consider adding them to the article. I'm copying his message below:

It's a notable legend, mentioned by numerous sources. There's even more to say about it, in fact, the shoemaker's guild apparently got the double headed eagle on their coat of arms because of it. Here, check this out: http://www.potsdamerhandwerk.de/Schuhmacher/ (Rough translation by me, not a native speaker, with help from Google translation: "The coat of arms of the shoemaker's guild bears the royal double eagle, with crown, scepter, sword and orb. How did the shoemaker's guild gain such high honor? Emperor Charles IV gave the shoe-makers the double-headed eagle as a guild mark. In the Battle of Rudau in East Prussia in 1370 against the Lithuanians, the shoemaker Hans von Sagan carried the standard and was knighted. The guild was granted the double-headed eagle as the emblem of the guild.")

The same story, slightly more detail, and claiming the note from the emperor still exists: http://www.schuhmacher-innung.de/derschuhmacher.html Less detail, but in English: http://www.kaliningrad.se/en/history/?history.detail=3001 It may be worth adding the bit about the shoemaker's guild coat of arms to the article. --GRuban (talk) 14:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 10:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would disagree with statement that it was a clear Teutonic victory. If so, why in lithuanian wikipedia is claimed that lithuanians won. Also, Dlogosz isn't a good history source, as his lithuanophobic view and inpretations are jug-handled.--86.100.205.18 (talk) 16:47, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]