Talk:Battle of Qalamoun (2013–2014)

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Hezbollah claim

isnt the 15000 hezbollah fighters number deeply overestimated? there were other talk pages were something like that was told.

Yep it is a partisan source and highly dubious. They were present lall know it and no one denies it, but that is probably inflated.(Lihaas (talk) 16:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

I have just noticed that the SAA and allies suffered over 1,800 losses, is there a source for that??? I have checked the source and it doesnt state that.200.48.214.19 (talk) 13:23, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1800 casualties for the saa? are you kidding? there is no source for that and the supposed source doesn't mentio a casualty figure at all. please remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.30.85 (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The source is there and the source does say it. Read it more carefully. It says The activists have claimed the army and Hezbollah suffered up to 1,800 casualties in the 32-day battle, mainly in the ranks of the military, with rebel losses in the low hundreds, although precise figures are impossible to verify. Its been noted its an opposition claim. And please refrain from removing sourced material. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 13:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1800 casualties is not even possible, because they won this battle and had air supriority. please remove this claim, it's ridiculous beyond believe, they have no fucking proof whatsoever.

Wellcome to wikipedia!! Thats my answer to the misinformation mentioned here. If the Oposition can mention its estimates why not the pro regime forces??200.48.214.19 (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To do

Need a background of the war, Qusayr turning the tide, and the recent pressure from the chemical weapons and it s controversy of lclaimants/.

Also the refugees slipping into Arsal in large numbers

Also there was talk of this building up some week ago , I remember reading about it and wondering itd probably take months to happen. We should mention the rumours going into this as lissttle as a few months/weeks ago.(Lihaas (talk) 16:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

Links

[1]>> Syrian troops seize strategic town >> Fighting rages in Syria despite peace talks (Lihaas (talk) 18:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

Campaign Over?

How has the end date of this offensive been determined? I have not come across any other sources that suggest that this campaign specifically ended, although I have read that in mid-December SAA forces were re-deployed from the assault on Yabroud to counter a rebel offensive in East Ghouta (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/30/hezbollah-and-assad-plan-offensive-on-jihadists-in-yabrud.html). However, this page appears confused as to whether or not this particular offensive ended in December or is still ongoing - events are listed up to January 30, over a month after the info-caption has declared this offensive over, and there are indications that violence could pick again soon around Yabroud. Will this be a new offensive or part of the one this page says ended on December 15? - Neumannk (talk) 13:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See the link above, its still ongoing.(Lihaas (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

Divided the article into two phases.first phase ended when gov. Forces captured nabk,and the second phase began with the attack on Yabrud.Alhanuty (talk) 01:15, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Syrian army 'readies ground assault on Yabrud'"

Article uploaded by the AFP just 30mins ago. Article--Homan 056k (talk) 15:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stalemate

The gov. Offensive has stalled per http://www.voanews.com/content/syrian-army-assault-on-qalamoun-region-stalls/1861464.html

Should we add a stalemate sub-title.Alhanuty (talk) 00:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the situation continues as it has we should close the second phase and put the result as a stalemate because the Army has not captured the town but has almost completely severed all links Yabrud has with the outside world. We should wait a bit more to see how the situation develops. EkoGraf (talk) 13:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not really Yabrud is not really bisieged,there still supply line going into Lebanon.Alhanuty (talk) 17:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I said almost. EkoGraf (talk) 10:17, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any information about the SAA atacking Maaloula????200.48.214.19 (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lebanese army?

What is the source backing the claim that the Lebanese regular army is involved in the battle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the article.--41.76.208.114 (talk) 05:26, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fate of 25,000-30,000 rebels.

Acording to a pro-rebel source, the rebels suffered low hundreds of casaulties. But the big question remains, if the regime have captured circa 90% of qalamoun, whats the fate of the nearly 30,000 Antiregime forces. Are they dead/missing/captured or simply they escaped, there must be a logical explanation, several thousands of fighters cant dissapear without a trace. There should be a section that at least try to explain this.200.48.214.19 (talk) 20:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

reports state some of them went to Lebanon to regroup and comeback,others went to fight in the eastern qalamoun area between dumayr and sayqal airports,other went hiding in secret mountain hideouts in the qalamoun,and their attacks are resurging now,alot of military experts stated it is impossible for the gov to have full control over the qalamoun.Alhanuty (talk) 04:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a new article named 2nd Battle of Qalamoun or something else, but it stated that the opening force of Antiregime forces stood at 3,000. A very distant number for those 25k - 30k alleged fighters in the begining of this campaign. Again my question floats by. Where are those 20k aprox fighters?200.48.214.19 (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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