Talk:Battle of Jerez

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Alfonso

My opinion is that the PCG is not reliable in this instance. It has other rather improbable assertions, as it will become clear for anyone reading about the siege of Cordoba, assertions contradicted by more recent historians. Its "facts" (or more correctly, its interpretations thereof) have been copied by a great deal of books that did not consult the original chronicles. I think the trend with respect to which Alfonso took part at Jerez is clear, but I let both versions stand for now. Have mörser, will travel (talk) 12:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Julio González, who is usually skeptical about the most outlandish claims in the chronicles, point out that there are two passages, one which does say "brother" (p. 64f36), so it's less clear cut than I thought. Have mörser, will travel (talk) 16:05, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

500 beheadings

The article before my edit currently says: "Alfonso X recounts that he was also impressed with the bloody execution of 500 captured prisoners, a task that he was put in charge of."

It quotes for this H. Salvador Martínez, with English translation by Odile Cisneros (2010) [Spanish edition: 2003]. Alfonso X, the Learned: a biography. BRILL. pp. 82–83. The exact quote from the English edition on pg 83 reads: "Alfonso had to witness, for the first time in his life, the "beheading" of five hundred Moorish prisoners that don Alvar had entrust to him in the rearguard." Further it gives a footnote which explicitly denies the claim that he was put in charge of this affair. "... don Alvar Perez, who was at the front, gave orders to have them decapitated, and they did."

Therefore I am deleting this from the page. If anyone has a source that validates or contracts this please add to the discussion.15:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Rynchpln (talk)