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Move to Battle of Finnsburg

Results	Search phrase
5440	Battle of Finnesburh
2560	Battle of Finnsburh
821	Battle of Finnsburg
161	Battle of Finnesburgh
156	Battle of Finnesburg
122	Freswael
44	Battle of Finnsburgh
7	The Freswael
0	Battle of Finnburg
0	Battle of Finnburgh

As of 22 October 2011, these are the number of search results for various phrases describing this battle on Google Books[.] The current name of this article, Battle of Finnburg, has zero results, and the greatest number of results are for Battle of Finnsburg. I propose we move this article there. --Sbp (talk) 13:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~With more searching, I find that Battle of Finnesburh is even more popular, so I've updated the proposal. Note that these figures don't reflect trends over time.~~ --Sbp (talk) 15:14, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To get an overview of how the most recent scholarship handles the name, I tried Google Scholar instead. Here are the results for books and papers since 1992:

Results	Search phrase
832	Finnsburg
262	Finnsburh
154	Finnesburg
82	Finnesburh
55	Finnsburgh

I also did a search for 'Finn Hnaef Hengest' in books and papers from the 21st century, and looked through them to see what forms they use. Finnesburh is used once, Finnsburh is used four times, and Finnsburg eight. From this I think it's quite clear that Battle of Finnsburg is the modern consensus name. I've struck through my comments above since they are no longer relevant arguments. --Sbp (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jutes or Frisians

Whether eotena means Jutes or giants is important. I am, though, confused that there doesn't seem to be a discussion of the alleged interchangeability of the names Jutes and Frisians. Geography and linguistics have that these be two different and separate peoples. The terms therefore can not be used interchangeably without at least causing confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxthedog (talk • contribs) 18:15, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Phase One: The siege battle

Unfortunately, the characters of Garulf and Guthere were swapped. Acccording to Chambers Garulf was the attacker and Guthere the councelor. More recently: Neidorf 2020.Otto S. Knottnerus (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]