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Review: November 7, 2023. (Reviewed version).

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Title change

I changed the title from Battle of Charleston, WV to Battle of Charleston (1862) as the state of West Virginia (WV) did not exist in 1862. Charleston was still a part of Virginia at the time. I will make additional edits shortly, and will add this to the main article, West Virginia in the Civil War. Scott Mingus 21:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that West Virginia became its own entity and no longer part of Virginia after the Wheeling Conventions of 1861, thought it was not officially admitted to the US until 1863. At least, that's what our article on West Virginia suggests.--Mojo Hand (talk) 17:18, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was still Virginia and treated as such by Congress and the President.Dubyavee (talk) 20:46, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Hog Farm _Talk 01:06, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 18:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It might take me several days to get through this in its entirety but I will take a look. Hog Farm _Talk 18:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"This battle should not be confused with other battles with similar names that occurred in Charleston, Missouri, and South Carolina's Charleston Harbor." - I think a standard top-of-the-page hatnote pointing to the dab page Battle of Charleston might be cleaner.
- Made change. TwoScars (talk) 21:58, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"After a victory at Fayetteville on September 10" - the link to Fayetteville here is a bit of a MOS:EGG issue, as it appears to link to a place, not a battle
- Changed to "After a victory in the Battle of Fayetteville on September 10...." TwoScars (talk) 22:01, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Exceptions to Cox's orders were about 5,000 troops left behind and put under the command of Colonel Joseph Andrew Jackson Lightburn." - double-check the pagination on this? The total of 5,000 left in the Kanawha is on p. 225 I think
- Changed pages to 225 & 227. Page 225 has the 5,000 troops to remain, and page 227 says Cox turned over command to Lightburn. TwoScars (talk) 22:15, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"In 1862, the Kanawha Valley was important to the Confederacy because of its salt deposits and its potential for new army recruits" - was the Kanawha Valley heavily Unionist like most of WV at the time?
- In the southern half of western Virginia, many of the people from the mountains were pro-Union, while the majority in the large valleys were pro-Confederate. Bushwhackers were a big problem. Confederate Colonel George Patton Sr. was from Charleston. Brigadier General Albert G. Jenkins was from Cabell County (not far from the Ohio River and the valley). Brigadier General John Echols was from Monroe County (south of Lewisburg). A Union soldier described Lewisburg as a "hot rebel town". If you think it is worthwhile to add this sentence "In the southern half of western Virginia, many of the people from the mountains were pro-Union, while the majority in the large valleys were pro-Confederate." The source is a former governor of West Virginia in his 1916 book. TwoScars (talk) 22:35, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think that would be helpful. Hog Farm _Talk 23:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - Added sentence and added source to References section. TwoScars (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Starr is a three-volume work, and which volume is being used should be indicated (I'm assuming Vol. 2 based on a review of my print copies)
- Fixed. (It is Vol II)
"three rifled and three smooth bore" - I'd be a bit hesitant to link to the 3-inch ordinance rifle and the 6-pounder field gun here - personally I think the source is too vague to rule out say the M1841 12-pounder howitzer for the smoothbore or some other stray type of piece. Gilbert's report refers to two 10-pounder guns, which could be either the 3-inch ordinance rifle or a 10-pounder Parrott conceviably
- Unlinked "rifled" and "smooth bore" TwoScars (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
" later named 2nd West Virginia Cavalry, " - I'd drop this statement - it's not directly supported by the source and isn't really necessary
- Dropped. TwoScars (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stopping here for now. I have no issues with using Lowry as a source for the GA level. Hog Farm _Talk 00:21, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

" The camp is located on the Kanawha River about 13 miles (21 km) upriver (east) from Charleston." - would this be better in the past tense?
- Changed to "was located". (As info, I believe there is a historic marker there today.) TwoScars (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's all from me for now. Hog Farm _Talk 23:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.