Talk:Battle of Benavente

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I intend to extend the text and introduce more inline citations. Urselius (talk) 12:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC) Done! Urselius (talk) 12:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Location

I am not familiar with english wiki standards. Nevertheless as far as I understand this battle was placed at the town of Benavente. Benavente belongs nowadays to the province of Zamora. Back then, well, that's a moot point. The enlightened reforms back to 1799 placed the town as a exclave of the province of Valladolid. Joseph Bonaparte ordered a new division in prefectures which would apparently place Benavente within the limits of the province of León, but the plan did not take place. Anyways, the interwiki link redirects to the article that corresponds to the current province of León. That province limits, like all the other current ones, traces back to the di visión of Javier de Burgos in 1833. Therefore I think the location is a mistake.--Pseudousuario | (Speak to me in tongues) 09:58, 23 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pseudousuario (talk • contribs)

I wrote the article and I was thinking of the Kingdom of Leon, I just tend to consider all that area of Spain as "Leon", much as Norwich is in Norfolk, but also in the larger region of East Anglia (likewise a former kingdom). Feel free to change the demarcation as you like. Urselius (talk) 10:19, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. The current provinces of León, Zamora and Salamanca form the Región Leonesa or ancient kingdom of León (and they also formed the Junta General del Reino de León during a lapse in the Peninsular War). I change the location. Do you think the article could use a location map? Best regards.--Pseudousuario (talk) 18:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A map showing the relationship between Astorga, Benavente and the River Esla would be useful. Saludos cordiales, Urselius (talk) 19:58, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the best fit I've found. A 1847 copy of a 1808 french original which shows the relative position between Benavente and River Esla (and Castrogonzalo). No Astorga though. File:1847 Passage de l'Esla map.jpg --Pseudousuario (talk) 11:40, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Useful enough though, thanks. Please feel free to add it. Urselius (talk) 14:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Date

According to Charles William Vane Narrative of the Peninsular War, https://archive.org/stream/narrativeofpenin00lond, page 207, the battle was fought on the 28th December, not the 29th. Is this due to some calendar discrepency between Spain or England and our modern calendar? Johannes Schade (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I expect Vane was just wrong - I have a memoir placing the writer's regiment in entirely the wrong area during Waterloo, going against other memoirs and the official regimental history. Urselius (talk) 20:29, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]