Talk:Battle of Albert (1914)

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X2 486Keith-264 (talk) 14:07, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion

Made a start by moving material from Race to the Sea ready to expand the material here as far as sources allow.Keith-264 (talk) 14:58, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gleaned a bit from divers sources but the layout needs attention.Keith-264 (talk) 18:11, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bavaria/Saxony etc under Germany

Bavaria etc should not be listed under Germany in the same ways as colonies and such are in battle infoboxes. They maybe be "separate", in a similar way the SSR's are also this in the Soviet Union, or states within the Confederate states of America, but these are never listed in such infoboxes infobox. Colonies (such as british india), are listed under the UK, since this is a "separate country" subordinated to the UK. Not a region within (like Scotland, although that particular example is not as accurate as the SSR's etc sinec its not treated the same fully..) Anyway, I think what im trying to say is conveyed.--Havsjö (talk) 19:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, look at the 1871 treaty. See also Lucas, A.; Schmieschek, J. (2015). Fighting the Kaiser's War: The Saxons in Flanders 1914/1918. Barnsley: Pen & Sword Military. ISBN 978-1-78346-300-8 and Sheldon, J. (2017). Fighting the Somme: German Challenges, Dilemmas & Solutions. Barnsley: Pen & Sword Military. ISBN 978-1-47388-199-0. The relationship between the princely states and the federal government wasn't anywhere near as subordinate as that in the pseudo-federal states of the US. Your analogies do not take proper account of the facts and the sources. Before the Battle of the Somme began, the commander of the XIV Reserve Corps applied (quite properly) to the Wurttemberg government for more artillery after Falkenhayn turned him down and got it. This is a level of independence a plane above anything on the Allied side and should be shown in the infobox because it's so succinct. Add a note to the article too. Keith-264 (talk) 20:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]