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May want to look to Comics2Film for additional information. I'd also suggest implementing the Cite news or Cite web templates. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First Look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuSwj5ok24k First Look at the project, a lot of info from the creators. Vicco Lizcano (talk) 15:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC) ^{(Hey! Listen!)}[reply]

For whatever reason, YouTube (and sites that are similar) videos aren't considered reliable sources. It's more than likely that for the bulk of the information, we'll have to wait for the DVD release so that someone can reference whatever documentaries are on them. -- Harish - 20:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Standalone?

I know in many ways it's simply not going to be considered a sequel to Batman Begins, or something preceding The Dark Knight, but isn't that the case with the story? -- Harish - 20:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DC movies are not connected

Having Justice League and Wonder Woman in the proceeded by and followed is wrong. There is no connection to any of the films outside of the being DC. By this logic Constantine is connected to V for Vendetta or Batman Begins.76.241.88.186 (talk) 05:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

However, they are connected within the same series of films, if not by continuity. For the article's sake, it's best to show the readers which films were released in progression of the series since there is no continuity between them. Since there is already a page for the line of the films which explains that they are standalone, there's no need to show continuity progression. --CmdrClow (talk) 01:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how the proceeded by and followed by are used. Like I said above Constantine & V for Vendetta are both made by Warner Bros. and are DC Vertigo movies, they are not connected.99.163.157.119 (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, see Template:Infobox_Film.99.163.157.119 (talk) 01:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The template says use these for a series of movies. Because the producers have called these a series, EVEN THOUGH THEY AREN'T CONNECTED BY CONTINUITY, they are still within the same franchise. --CmdrClow (talk) 08:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, wouldn't Batman Begins be in the preceded by space, and The Dark Knight in the followed by space? I mean, these are the movies that this cartoon is related to. And these cartoons tell the story of what happens between those movies. Cubzrule (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We would need a source for it, but having watched this movie last night, it's 100% in the "universe" of the Batman Begins and The Dark Knight films. Narrative-wise it's a bridge between the two films (art style/visual design differences aside). It's totally obvious, given that Gordon is clearly Gary Oldman's Gordon; Scarecrow is Cillian Murphy's version; Arkham and the Narrows from the film, with the "weaponized hallucinogen"; the various mobsters are named ones from the films; Lucious Fox and his relationship with Bruce are straight out of the new films; etc. rootology (T) 18:10, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Press Release

http://www.forbes.com/businesswire/feeds/businesswire/2008/02/25/businesswire20080225006136r1.html It's just a more verifiable source than World'sFinest.com Same thing though --Lordkelvin (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

There is not enough info for the individual segments to warrant infoboxes for them. 75.10.141.26 (talk) 22:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason I added them was because it makes the info in the info boxes look a bit more organized. But I can understand your point, if you all want to take it out, fine by me. Cubzrule (talk) 22:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I get what you mean, once the individual plots and cast get filled out, that would be the time to add them. 75.10.141.26 (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Not 100% accurate

Is that necessary with the the future films tag on the top pretty much saying that the content of the page might change? Cubzrule (talk) 22:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Please discuss on this talk page rather than the constant reversion seen so far. - jc37 04:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We have been discussing it. There is not enough info in the individual plots for the separate. infoboxes. 99.156.9.185 (talk) 17:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External links

connections to franchise?

At one point, there were a number of rumors that one or more of these stories would be 'canonic' to the Nolan franchise, and would bridge the two movies. are there any current sources regarding that? I'm fairly sure that at one point i had read that the killer croc story would be the connection, but haven't seen hide nor hair about that in months. ThuranX (talk) 03:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No sources that I've seen, but this post by me above basically sums it up, having seen it last night. A viewer of Batman Begins and Gotham Knight (with a tiny bit of knowledge of the DC universe) would have to be oblivious to not see this as a cartoon sequel to Batman Begins that precedes Dark Knight (or a Dark Knight prequel)? :) Aside from the voice actors like Kevin Conroy and a nice homage in the first segment of Gotham Knight to the DCAU episode Legends of the Dark Knight there's no connection to the DCAU either. rootology (T) 18:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

merge that mess

why are the individual episodes on individual (really short pages once the cast lists are removed, and it's redundant since the cast is already here and no one is gonna go right to each segment anyway) pages instead of a merged area here like it used to be?

merge it! or come up with a good reason? maybe. Kozmik_Pariah (talk) 10 July 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.119.157 (talk) 04:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

could do a table listing the whole cast and which shorts they're in, maybe even color code it for any voice actors (eg corey burton) playing more than one character. Nateji77 (talk) 07:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really think the individual pages should just redirect to their respective entries on the main article, and also merge whatever minuscule information there could be in them into the article. They are not long enough to be worth it. --Mike | Contrib 12:11, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indiscrepancies?

In Gotham Knight, Ramirez seems to be a stand-hard goodguy, while in The Dark Knight, it's revealed she's corrupt. Watching the movie this REALLY bothered and confused me. Also, it's worth mentioning that in The Dark Knight, no mention is made regarding The Scarecrow's hold on the homeless. Does that mean that Gotham Knight is truely just a stand-alone and not at all Nolan Batman series canon? 68.114.233.112 (talk) 03:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ramirez was corrupt in the movie because her mother's life was threatened. (At least, that's what she claims.) The Gotham Knight is not considered canon to the movie, however. --68.8.206.199 (talk) 15:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Renee Montoya???

Anna Ramirez links to Renee Montoya. They are not the same person. Montoya's page makes no mention of Ramirez, and there is no reason to link there. --68.8.206.199 (talk) 15:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]