Talk:Batavian Revolution

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Batavian revolution → Batavian Revolution – All "Revolution" articles are capitalized, this should be done for the sake of consistency. Charles Essie (talk) 20:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on rationale given. "All Revolution articles are capitalized" isn't true, and even if it was usually true, nominator needs to show some indication that capitalization is appropriate *for this specific article*. WP:COMMONNAME is the standard here, this isn't the kind of topic where there's a systematic or scientific naming to defer to. The fact that nominator's COMMONNAME claim on Talk:Cambodian genocide proved to be 100% wrong, and he hasn't even offered one this time, does not fill me with hope. (If someone else wants to make an actual case, I may change my !vote of course.) SnowFire (talk) 20:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I Googled it and found only entries that capitalised Revolution. See this and this (in Dutch) and this, this and this (in English). I didn't find any site where revolution is not capitalised. Moreover, the article name of Batavian Revolution in Amsterdam contradicts this one. (I don't know much about Wikipedia's naming policies or article moving procedures, but I hope this helps.) (Luxorr (talk) 21:50, 7 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Sure. Support then on basis of these links. SnowFire (talk) 00:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support This describes a particular historical event, not all revolutions that took place in Batavia or were of a Batavian character. --BDD (talk) 22:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support word per word per BDD. — AjaxSmack 00:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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References

The two main sources for the few refs here are called "Schama" and "De Vries and Van der Woude". I have presumed the first is Schama, Simon, Patriots and Liberators: Revolution in the Netherlands 1780–1813, 1977, but it might be his better-known Citizens on the French Rev. Neither the Dutch nor French articles tell me who the other is, but I'm guessing De Vries, Jan and Ad van der Woude, The First Modern Economy: Success, Failure, and Perseverance of the Dutch Economy, 1500-1815. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1997. Jonathan Israel has loads of titles, but perhaps the single ref (p. 1106) is to The Dutch Republic: Its Rise, Greatness and Fall, 1477–1806. Oxford History of Early Modern Europe. 1995. Johnbod (talk) 19:05, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]