Talk:Bastarda

set apart

Somehow this needs to be set apart from this: http://www.lamaisondelacalligraphie.com/stages/archives-stages/la-bâtarde-italienne/ which is similar to what is referred to on the French version of this page. All the other languages refer to something similar to this page, a gothic blackletter style, except for the Italian page, which seems to not have much information at all. I suspect that what the French refer to as Écriture bâtarde is something entirely different than what everyone else is refering to as bastarda, and that the two have become confused. Both are probably deserving of entries, but this is beyond me to figure out. Is there someone who can make sense of this? Cardweaver (talk) 08:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

horrible name

why?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

The herein article needs to set out the etymology of the font's name: "Bastarda".

Has the font always been known as "Bastarda" and why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.166.28 (talk) 22:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

The form of lettering was actually called Lettre bâtarde by the French, or more simply Bâtarde. The style was most popular in Germany and France as a style that developed out of the need to write blackletter forms more quickly. To do so, a cursive slant was added through Italian influence as well as the elimination of some the many penlifts inside the individual letters that formal blackletter styles demanded. In this way, it is similar to Secretary Hand in Britain. Having done calligraphy for over 4 decades, I run into various forms called batarde often....... very rarely other than for one font to I see any reference to a letterform called Bastarda, and that has only been in the last few years. Oxford/Lexico/Merriam-Webster all do NOT recognize the name Bastarda.

I would suggest that the article be renamed to Lettre bâtarde

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