Talk:Basil Hume

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Primate or not primate

For such an apparently basic question, this is clearly a source of differences of opinion, not to mention confusion. In light of this, people deserve to be told, not only his correct title/s, but also a brief explanation of the controversy about the title and why we think our version is the right one. JackofOz 10:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add to this, it's misleading. The Roman Catholic Church is entitled to claim its jurisdiction anywhere in the world as it sees fit (it is not interested in temporal powers / jurisdictions) - hence what the Church of England does or doesn't call its own bishops is irrelevant. The Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster is entitled to be called Primate of England & Wales. So far as the Roman Catholic Church need be concerned, the Church 'of England' doesn't even exist.Iamlondon 10:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He may well be entitled to be called that, but he isn't called that. End of.Lawsonrob

That discussion appears on his successor's page - surely better to include on the Archbishop of Westminster page ? -- Beardo 02:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Archbishop of Westminster claims the title of "Primate of England and Wales", whereas the Archbishop of Canterbury claims the title of Primate of all England. Who is the pretender is a matter of religious opinion. This should be mentioned, rather than such a biased accusation.

Birth name

Quote: "George Haliburton Hume was born in Newcastle upon Tyne to Sir William Errington and Marie Elizabeth (née Tisseyre) Hume."

Question: is this saying that his birth surname came from his mother rather than his father? If so, why? It's far from normal in patrilineal societies for children's surnames to reflect their mothers' rather than their fathers'. Or is "Sir William Errington" a shorthand way of saying "Sir William Errington Hume"? Either way, it at least needs clarification, and possibly explanation. -- JackofOz 07:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I've done a quick Google and discovered his father was Sir William Errington Hume [1]. I'll clarify the article accordingly. -- JackofOz 07:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy and theological views

Cardinal Hume was justly popular and came across as a reasonable and intelligent man. Certainly he was a very good advertisement for the Roman Catholic Church. He was also a member of "the establishment" and apparently saw one of his objectives as influencing "people who mattered". However, under his leadership, the number of Roman Catholics attending church declined markedly. In addition, the article scarcely touches on Cardinal Hume's theological views. The impression he gave was being relatively liberal. I'm quite sure he was anti-abortion, though I rarely heard him pontificate on this. Certainly I never heard him express views on birth control. It could be that I am wrong, but in its present state, the article does not address these points Millbanks (talk) 07:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What reference for his death date?

Please disregard earlier comment - I was mistaken with Cardinal Vaughan.

My apologies, Sam.

Date of "Clothing" in the monastic habit

Re Heading: "Early Life and ministry":
"He took the name "Basil" when he received the habit and was solemnly professed in 1945."
This cannot be correct. Clothing in the monastic habit precedes Simple Profession, which in turn precedes Solemn Profession. On the assumption that the year stated for his Solemn Profession is correct, and depending on certain other factors, he may have made his Simple Profession in 1942 and may have been clothed in the monastic habit and taken his religious name in 1941. But this needs to be verified.
Blunderland (talk) 11:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]