Talk:Baron of Stobo

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Dear Magnificentist

Thanks for your prompt response on my submission. I am deeply puzzled by your response.

Firstly, a Scottish barony is a minor title of nobility ranking in precedence above a clan chief and as such, inherently noteworthy; secondly, the barony of Stobo is referenced at the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barons_in_Scotland under the list of pre-1707 baronies; thirdly, there are numerous such Scottish barony pages on Wikipedia under Barony and linked to it, full listings for Cartsburn, Cowie, Dirleton, Hailes, Ladyland, Newton, Peacockbank, Plenderleith, not to mention the Royal barony of Renfrew, one of the titles of HRH Prince Charles, Duke of Rothesay.

With respect, I do wonder: how great is your grasp of the intricacies of Scottish nobility? Were you actually aware of any of the above Wikis when you dismissed Stobo as lacking in notability? Is Stobo any less notable than any of these (bar Renfrew perhaps?).

You suggest the entry reads "like an essay". In fact, the piece is academically sound. It is carefully researched citing primary sources from the Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, from the National Archives of Scotland and the Scottish Records Service as well as impeccable secondary sources (Millar, Buchan). If you wish, I can spell these sources out in greater detail for you. I accept that I have used conventional archival references which may be confusing to the general or untutored reader.

I would ask you to detail for me how I might amend the piece to meet your concerns but would ask you to reconsider your dismissal of the piece which I feel is unjustified.Manorial (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]