Talk:Barbara Frale

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Further publications on shroud writings

Any further news or publications, by herself or others on the writings she reported on the shroud?

It has been a while, anything new? A link to a photo of the writings? History2007 (talk) 19:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

images from the book [1] and a review in Italian with photos [2]--Domics (talk) 10:01, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, very good. The one I was interested in was the one with the writings, bottom right corner. What have other scholars/academics have said since then? I did get that question from someone on a page. History2007 (talk) 14:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now I am not clear on the photos. The analysis of those photos seems to be by André Marion and Anne-Laure Courage, not by Frale. Is that so? If so, what items did Frale add to the 1999 analysis? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Frale explains: "A team of French researchers, led by Professor Andre Marion CNRS (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique) has made" clear "all written there. I arrive "late", in reality my job was to explain what the words mean in these signs... The fact is that they had discovered, but not explained."[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.252.231.149 (talk) 09:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would add that Marion published his findings in a peer reviewed article: A. Marion, Discovery of inscriptions on the shroud of Turin by digital image processing, in «Optical Engineering» 37/8 (1998)[4]--Domics (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No one in Italy gives much credit to Frale's theory about death certificate and the interpretation of the scripts. Even Bruno Barberis, director of the Turin International Center of Sindonology[5], said: "The problem is that these scripts are not confirmed. It has never been made a photographic survey that gives definitive answers on whether there are or not these writings. Besides, many people have found lots of words so it seems to me more an encyclopedia than a shroud. The priority is to determine if those writtens are real. Who then come to conclusions like that of Frale, I think it's science fiction and fantahistory. I'm also extremely critical of these hypotheses because they can be used by opponents of the Shroud. "[6] (sorry for my translation). --Domics (talk) 10:29, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An interview with Dr. Barbara Frale about her book [7]--Domics (talk) 12:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. What has happened here is that it has become clear that the issue of the Death certificate of Jesus is WP:Notable-enough, given that there is back and forth discussion on it in multiple publications - both peer-reviewed and major newspapers, that it should not be merged into Frale's personal bio-page. So I will build a page for it. Thanks for our input, and if ou do have other sources, for or against, please do suggest them. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed reference: ^[1] Reason for Removal: The preceding sentence states "Frale's methodology has been criticized, partly based on the objection that the writings are too faint to see", however, the article is not concerning Frale's work, or the letters on the Shroud of Turin, but rather only concerns historical records of the Mandylion of Constantinople and the Shroud.

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References

^ Poulle, Emmanuel, ″Les sources de l'histoire du linceul de Turin. Revue critique″, Revue d'Histoire Ecclésiastique, 2009/3-4, pp. 747–782, abstract Archived 10 July 2011 at the Wayback Machine. Retrieved 24 October 2010

[1] Poulle, Emmanuel, ″Les sources de l'histoire du linceul de Turin. Revue critique″, Revue d'Histoire Ecclésiastique, 2009/3-4, pp. 747–782, abstract Archived 10 July 2011 at the Wayback Machine. Retrieved 24 October 2010

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