Talk:Barathary gland

This article was nominated for deletion on 25 February 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was merge to Nuwaubianism.

Dr. York has a barathary gland?

When and where did Dr. York state that he had a barathary gland? Please cite a direct and available reference. Dr. York also has written in a letter from his current incarceration stating that no one had their barathary gland. Nuwaubian Hotep 10:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Holy Tablets Chapter 19, Tablet 6 Verse? Also, where is the reference to the Antichrist having a barathary gland? Nuwaubian Hotep 16:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This Antichrist having a Barathary Gland comment needs to be removed. I own 3 bookshelves worth of Nuwaubian material and I cannot recall ever reading such a thing. I see you've added a citation however I think in this case given the outrageousness of the claim more will be needed.Nuwaubian Hotep 21:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing the Antichrist having a Barathary Gland statement as no reference is provided and this goes way beyond citation. Also, the verse is not listed for the statement of York's birth and tablet six is quite large. Nuwaubian Hotep 01:45, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mythology vs Teachings

The socially and politically correct term in this article should be "teachings" since "mythology" is mostly used for culturally dead societies. Nuwaubian Hotep 13:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Letter to Rana Hall

If you are going to cite it you should copy it here. Nuwaubian Hotep 14:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Baradjedi?

No where in any Nuwaubian scroll that I've seen is this form used. I have seen it however in emails written by Nuwaubians other than Dr. York. You should probably mentioned this. Nuwaubian Hotep 15:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moorlock it's bad enough that I have to come behind your work to change and revibrate these pages to a proper right and exactness. At least try to respect my edits by listing a reason if you revert them. Now.. Dr. York is the creator of the term Barathary Gland. He has never spelled it as “baradjedi”, “barithary” or “barathory”. If this article is going to be about Dr. York's work then let it be so. Please remove these spellings or give a reason as to why you think they should remain. Just because you've seen it spelled a different way doesn't make that valid. If it's not spelled this way in the doctrine (and it's not), then it's not valid Sena. Nuwaubian Hotep 02:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn’t think this page was necessarily meant to be exclusively about Dr. York’s use of the term, though he was its inventor. I thought of the page as being meant to discuss the use of the gland in Nuwaubian folklore more inclusively. I included these various alternate spellings so that the reader would not be confused and think that when people refer to the "baradjedi gland" they are referring to something different, instead of just using an alternate spelling. -Moorlock 03:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reference for the Barathary Gland made by York and here it is with its source:

"While my mother was pregnant certain nerves in the brain of the child were altered so that child would be able to receive a higher intellect. An intellect higher than other normal Earth Beings who have had their Barathary Glands removed.” (York, M.Z. The Holy Tablets Chapter 19, Tablet 6)

ork says that humans (other than York himself)[3], are missing an important part of their brains, the “barathary gland,” which once enabled various forms of extra-sensory perception, or, as he would have it, normal sensory perception that is currently disabled in humans.

The Barathary Gland resided inside the Hippocampus area, which is a cavity of the cerebellum.… The Barathary Gland has connections with the appendix and the tonsils. The Hippocampus is the tissue which held the barathary gland when it was once inside Zakar’s (Adam’s) The grandfather of ENOS[4] brain. Although conscious perception does not occur in the cerebellum this is the part of the brain that is responsible for hallucinations. Also the reactions of the cerebellum are unconscious (meaning you are unaware that it happened) and that is why even though the Barathary gland is missing, portions of the gland were left on the nerve endings because total removal would have damaged the nerve from the cerebellum. You had five complete senses: touch (the “senses” you have now only go under touch — light touches the retina to see, sound vibrations touch the ear drum to hear, etc.) mind perception (intuition), mental communication (telepathy), object reading (psychometry), and clear/clair sight – to see into other dimensions (clairvoyance). With the removal of your barathary gland, you lost access to the ELOHEEM. Then you became Enosites.[5] Another Nuwaubian “scroll” adds:

The BARATHARY GLAND Was removed from ADAM And EVE By The Great Scientist NERGAL SHAR'ETSAR.[6] York wrote that he visited a spacecraft that is preparing to rescue loyal Nuwaubians, and that on this spacecraft he saw representations of barathary glands:

They showed me these little what looked like glass round balls about the size of a pool ball with 1 green light inside and names written on them, floating in this room around this big one about the size of a small car maybe 9x9 it glowed violet and rays of light would touch each green ball, it would turn yellow then blue then red. I knew them to be barithary glands that would need to be replaced if you can visit other — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.147.49.205 (talk) 17:27, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to other UFO abductee's

The the operation for the reinsertion of the Barathary gland supposedly takes place on a sham (ufo). That by design would associate all other personalties who claim they have been greeted by UFO's and were operated on. Please restore the links.

That's a little far-afield. Perhaps instead a link to some general UFO category, or UFO enthusiast category, rather than a list of people who claim to have been on UFOs but who have had nothing to say about the "barathary gland". Raël didn't say anything about these glands, did he? -Moorlock 02:34, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rael is an important aspect of Nuwaubu and studied in the Holy Tablets. So, ultimately the problem is the subject heading which should probably be Nuwaubu and UFOism listing the Barathary Gland as a subtitle. In this way we can get all the pertinent items included. Agreed? Nuwaubian Hotep 02:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you envisioning a separate page about the UFOlogy of Nuwaubianism? I think that would be better than trying to convert this page into something that covers a broader topic like that. If that page is small enough, then maybe the barathary gland section could be put under it. But it seems to me that the barathary gland topic isn't necessarily best subsumed under UFOlogy, but deserves a topic of its own -Moorlock 02:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I completely disagree. As I've already mentioned... Dr. York teaches that the reinsertion of the Barathary gland takes place on a UFO that Nuwaubians call shams. This in itself deems the topic of the Barathary gland as a subheading. This page isn't that long so I don't see the problem. Change is sometimes a good thing. Nuwaubian Hotep 03:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why I think it might not work well as a sub-heading is that while there is a connection between UFOs and the barathary gland, as you note, at the point where the reinsertion of the gland is supposed to take place, the rest of the story about the gland (what it's for, why some beings have them and others don't, etc.) is only tangentially related to UFOs, and so might not fit well on a page devoted to the UFO-related beliefs in Nuwaubian mythology. -Moorlock 03:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1st of all as with the rest of your work here the use of the term "mythology" (literally means the (oral) retelling of myths) is flawed. Nuwaubu is more of a folklore (popular belief) than a myth. Secondly, UFOlogy is a BIG part of Nuwaubu with the Barathary Gland a subcategory. Lets play jeopardy. What is Nibiru? It's obvious you don't want to do the work to create the page. And I'm not doing it so whatever. This is your mess not mine. Nuwaubian Hotep 03:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was using mythology in the sense of "stories that a particular culture believes to be true and that use the supernatural to interpret natural events and to explain the nature of the universe and humanity" which seems about right, but whatever. In any case, I thought that given your newfound enthusiasm for editing Wikipedia's articles on Nuwaubianism you'd also be enthusiastic about starting new pages on the topic, giving them the benefit of your expertise from the get-go. I may never get around to writing about Sound Right Reasoning or Nuwaubian beliefs about extraterrestrial life myself. -Moorlock 03:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well then explain why Moorlock when you reference Zacharia Sitchin you refer to it as "cosmology"? Should not Nuwaubu be referred in as much the say way? Anyhow.. it looks like you're giving up on your Nuwaubianism pages, or don't seek to develop this futher. Good idea, and for good measure, in fact the whole premise of Wikipedia is flawed. Wikipedia seemed like a good idea initially but if you care to check, practically no one finds it reputable, in fact as a journalist you could be actually damaging your career by contributing here. Nuwaubian Hotep 04:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I AGREE I THINK DR MALACHI YORK EL HAS A BARATHARY GLAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.212.1.198 (talk) 15:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating this page for delete

I'm a high-order Nuwaubian priest and I'm nominating this page for uncreation (deletion); it's innaccurate and contains false information.Crabfan888 (talk) 03:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

         Why not fix it up, then? SirRibbit (talk) 20:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because it makes his religion look ridiculous?Pstanton 23:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstanton (talk • contribs)