Talk:Baptist covenant theology

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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... I just deleted the contested content. It no longer contains the copyrighted information. --Parmenides475 (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As requested, here the removal of the material said to be copyrighted: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baptist_Covenant_Theology&diff=881302443&oldid=88129919818:12, 1 February 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parmenides475 (talk • contribs)

It is not being speedy deleted, just the history redacted. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:15, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the copyrighted material. Are there any remaining objections to the article?Parmenides475 (talk) 18:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Parmenides475 As only administrators can do the revdel, you may not remove it yourself. Praxidicae (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above, the copyrighted material has already been deleted, so this tag should be removed. Also, someone has placed a tag to merge this article into Covenant Theology article. That basically means deleting this article. I was going to expand this article, but can only do that if it exists. These tags need to all be removed.Parmenides475 (talk) 20:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's more or less what the merge discussion is about – whether this article should exist or be a redirect to the broader topic. And regarding the revdel tag, the offending items in the article history still need to be deleted by an administrator, so the tag needs to stay until that is done. Bradv🍁 20:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So the question is if the article should exist in the future form I will be able to make it into if it continues to exist? How do you assess that? I just created this article yesterday. I have just started on it, and it is being criticized as incomplete even though I am just starting it. How do you criticize something that has just begun as incomplete, and threaten to delete it on that basis?

Also, if an administrator has to delete the copyright material, and I have already deleted it, does that mean an administrator has to re-add the copyright material just so they can re-delete it?Parmenides475 (talk) 21:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The question is whether the concept of Baptist covenant theology is best covered as its own article, or as part of Covenant theology. If editors determine it should be merged, you can continue to work on it there. And the copyrighted content has to be removed from the article's history, as currently it is still visible. Bradv🍁 21:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am not doing anything else on this article until these tags are removed. Someone remove the tags or delete the article. This whole thing has gotten ridiculous.Parmenides475 (talk) 21:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what exactly you think is ridiculous, but this is a collaborative encyclopedia, so we discuss things and work together towards a common goal. Tags and talk pages are part of that process. Bradv🍁 21:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How are you not sure what I think is ridiculous? I have already told you. Dispute about the need to remove content that has already been removed, whether my removal of it is somehow invalid because I am not an admin, and whether an admin needs to add it back so that an admin can then re-delete it. Also attacking the article for being too small and unfinished when I literally created the page yesterday, and was just beginning to build it. I am not going to waste my time further with it just to have it deleted. Delete the article or remove the tags. Do whatever "collaborative" changes you want. Something tells me that unless someone just deletes the article, little will happen here, no one else will do much of anything, and the tags will remain indefinitely.Parmenides475 (talk) 21:44, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]