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North Korea

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Hehe, so North Korea only bans one movie? May I remind you that North Korea is (by far) the most repressive and isolated dictatorship in the world? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.20.76.11 (talk) 18:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize that there's barely any point in bannning films in a regime when it is virtually impossible to import most foreign films? That and in case you haven't realized, isolated dictatorships don't usually tend to give out much information to the outside world. --Veyneru (talk) 18:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Also Soviet Union banned many more films than just Komissar --87.70.68.5 (talk) 13:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BRAZIL: UPDATE AND CORRECTIONS

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I did a research after realize that the Brazilian part of the article was not updated, wrong or without sources.


DICTATORSHIP IN BRAZIL (1964 - 1988)

During the dictatorship in Brazil, that last from 1964 to 1988 several films were banned under the Federal Law from Brazil 5536 from 1968. [1] During several years a project was being developed to find and publish every document on censorship in films during the dictatorship. The project "Memory of Censorship in Brazilian Cinema" released in 2005 six thousand documents about 175 banned films during the dictatorship. And, finally, in 2007 they released documents for the last 269 films banned at that time. [2]


AFTER DEMOCRATIZATION IN BRAZIL (1988 -)

BEYOND CITIZEN KANE(1993):

As writen in Wikipédia article “Beyond Citizen Kane": [3]

"On August 20, 2009, the newspaper Folha de S. Paulo reported that Rede Record bought the broadcasting rights of the documentary from Ellis for less than US$ 20,000." [4] [5]

"On February 14, 2011, the newspaper Jornal do Brasil (quoting the network's spokesperson) reported that Rede Record will broadcast the documentary in 2011, on a date yet to be specified." [6] [7]


DI CAVALCANTI(1976):

This film (short) about Di Cavalcanti was banned due a lawsuit open by Di Cavalcanti daughter, Elizabeth, in 1979. [8] [9]


68.115.67.210 (talk) 07:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trinidad & Tobago

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All the films listed to be banned in Trinidad isn't banned. I have live in Trinidad and have personally saw all these movies advertised in theaters and have seen bruno and the king and i in theaters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.58.177.61 (talk) 04:06, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Burma

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Some of the films listed as banned in Burma are indeed banned - 5 or 6 of them, according to a poorly cited blog entry. The rest of the films on the banned list are, as with the Trinidad and Tobago entry, not banned. This is mere politicking on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.1.64 (talk) 13:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the US?

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South Park (+ movie) actually banned? Perhaps the movie in some cities, but... seriously? I don't believe this, nor do I believe the claims of Kick Ass, Family Guy, or Robot Chicken being banned. Nevermind that three of these are TV shows, not films. This is absurd, especially with no sources. 68.227.169.59 (talk) 06:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Banned in Italy

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The whole section is ridiculous. None of the movie listened there is banned, since the censorship board cannot "ban" anything, and no member of the Church has ever been in the Commission. --SandorKrasna (talk) 22:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Withdrawn. Need to think about it. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 01:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of banned filmsList of banned films by country – that is what the page is about, and I want to create a global, alphabetical list at the current page name (similar to what is now at List of books banned by governments). -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 02:10, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're asking to move it to the title it already has? In any case, this needs to go through Wikipedia:Requested moves (where you have alrady listed it) not {{editprotected}} so I'll deactivate your request here. Tra (Talk) 05:07, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for correcting it but, you do still need to leave this to WP:RM so {{editprotected}} should not be used. Tra (Talk) 10:13, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Land of the Dead

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Is "deceits" the right word? This sentence doesn't make sense to me:

"The movie also deceipts the suffering and the agony of people who were forced to eat human flesh in Kharkiv during the German attack there on 1943."

I think this might be a typo for "depicts," but I don't know anything about the topic. Just stood out to me as a casual reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcwing (talkcontribs) 22:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two lists? Why?

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Why are there two lists? Is there any reason why they shouldn't be combined into one? I mean, there are some movies that are listed twice for the same country, on both the top and the bottom list. What is the logic here? 69.125.134.86 (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

China / Never given permission to screen

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Many films in the China section just say: never given permission to screen. AFAIK, only very few western movies are selected each year for screening in Chinese cinemas, but those films which are "never given permission to screen" are therefore not banned. I'm wondering which films in China are banned or were just not shown in Chinese cinemas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbj354234 (talkcontribs) 00:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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duplicates

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I have notice that on the list of banned films in this article there appears to be the same titled film that is listed sometimes more then once. I realize that this is due to the same film being banned in different countries and many banned in different years which is creating these duplicates. after seeking advice from the Teahouse/Questions I was advised by Cordless Larry to propose that the different countries and the years of the banned films are listed as one thus stopping the duplicates to occur.LoVeNoTwAr101 Lets Talk 14:03, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned references in List of banned films

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Reference named "imdbawards":

  • From The Calm (film): "Awards for Spokój". Internet Movie Database. Retrieved 20 May 2012. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  • From Mrs. Miniver (film): "Awards for Mrs. Miniver". Internet Movie Database. Retrieved February 16, 2013.
  • From Blind Chance: "Awards for Blind Chance". Internet Movie Database. Retrieved 14 February 2012. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

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Tagbomb removal

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I've removed the multiple issues template from the page. It seemed to list pretty much every single issue it's possible to list using that template, and there was nothing specifying what exactly the editor thought was wrong with the page in the first place. On cursory evaluation I cannot see any reason for any of the complaints in the template, so I think it was completely pointless. If there are still issues with the page, feel free to reintroduce the templates but do specify what the issues might be on the talk page. -- turdastalk 18:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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So few listed

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So many films are banned but so few listed here! In South Africa, for example, I remember scores upon scores of films being banned in the 1970s. Paul Beardsell (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Back to the Future not banned in China?

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I'm pretty sure Back to the Future (回到未来) is not banned in China.

1st I can find a CCTV 10 documentary on it on Chinese run video sharing site Bilibili: http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4897687/?from=search&seid=10885237992557562101

2nd I can find the full movie for paid users (会员) on the Chinese video site Iqiyi(爱奇艺) and on letv(乐视视频) which give a small snippet for non-paid users: http://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rrhsb0os.html?vfm=m_331_dbdy&fv=4904d94982104144a1548dd9040df241 http://www.letv.com/ptv/vplay/2025317.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diper3 (talkcontribs) 09:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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U.S.A.

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If List_of_films_banned_in_the_United_States exists, then why are there no banned films listed from the U.S.A. in this article? —DIV (120.18.65.198 (talk) 13:20, 28 January 2018 (UTC))[reply]

The target article has a good bit of depth. Several countries (including the US) are listed here under List_of_banned_films#Other_countries. - SummerPhDv2.0 19:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Use anchors to make list more navigable

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The country list is really long, would it be alright to add anchors to the country names and a navbox above it? Kingsif (talk) 19:02, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a good idea. The way the article is now, you're forced to scroll down the page to get to any particular country. I edited the page in January to have a navbox and a table for each country, but somebody changed it back to the old style in July for some reason. Neckstells (talk) 08:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That July edit that changed the page back to one big table was just a revert to January, undoing the 90 edits that had been made between January and July. I've changed the page back to 1 table per region, and added back in all the subsequent edits since the July edit. Neckstells (talk) 12:20, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit by Neckstells at 04:19, 16 January 2020 - switching from a list of film names to split countries and a not visible TOC on the right

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Neckstells: You named the reason "Being bold and organizing the article by country like List of banned video games because it's superior".
Your edit doen't fit to the lemma, which is a list of banned films. Not a list of countries and the films banned per country.
The example you named had to suffer the same experience, it's content has been developed against the article name (lemma): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_banned_video_games&direction=next&oldid=54528036
Since Neckstells didn't explain what is superior of the splitted and unsortable structure of his edit, i do suggest to rebuild this article back to the original structure.
Which means one sortable table, so everyone can sort the display sorting order like he wants. --Angerdan (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the by-country approach because otherwise the list becomes really long and hard to navigate, as pointed out by the section above. For example in the previous layout if you wanted to know just the films banned in Germany, you have to scroll all the way down to Germany then scroll back up a little bit to the top of Germany since the Germany column is so long in the table. It does mean that you can't sort everything at once anymore but IMO being able to navigate the list better outweighs that. Two similar list articles List of banned video games and List of books banned by governments are also sectioned by country. Neckstells (talk) 08:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The length of an list is no argument, because CTRL+F instantly brings the readers eye to the wished part anywhere in the list. And if sorted by country, scrolling to the first letter of the desired country is also fast. So navigation is also no problem.
Scrolling down is only neccesary because of the detailed notes for many films/countries, which aren't supposed to be detailed in this list. For details, films mostly have their own lemma/article and don't need all informations in the list.
So shortening the redundant text inside the notes will make a complete list much shorter.
And your last argument also has no substance because:
  1. booth articles has been in list format since their creation for years before the change
  2. you are the one who did the change
  3. all your actions have been without any asking in advance or announcement from you wether than consent with the community.
  4. you acted against the documented consent and will of the editors and din't even participated in their disc: Talk:List of books banned by governments/Archive 2#New Column
I appreciate your engagement and motivation in general (and in other censorship list articles) as well as i expect a progress/change in the two lists you'd "bold rebuild". Remember the lemma title, it is first a list, second of films and after this the country. If you want another, different lemma, you are free to create it.
--Angerdan (talk) 11:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not allowed movies in Switzerland

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There isn't an official list for movies banned in Switzerland, but there is a law forbidding stuff: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/54/757_781_799/en#book_2/tit_1/lvl_4/lvl_d6550e403 212.103.72.148 (talk) 15:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of this discussion was: Merged. MaterialWorks (talk) 20:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After deleting all the unsourced entries, most of which did not have articles in enwiki and no commetary whatsoever, there are only 3 entries left. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 19:18, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support the move. - Ageofultron 23:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Given that the List of films banned in Chile has a significant amount of referenced text, a straight list move won't work. Rather, I think that the list can move as indicated, while the text should go to a new Chile section on Film censorship. Klbrain (talk) 10:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Klbrain's suggestion above. Joyous! | Talk 10:41, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Re: above discussion

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@MaterialWorks @LaundryPizza03 @Ageofultron @Klbrain @Joyous! pinging users in above discussion @Pristino pinging author

I'm not sure if any external discussion has taken place, but [1] the articke appears to have been unilaterally unredirected and recreated. As far as I can tell, the entries were sourced, but I'm not sure if there should've been some procedure done. Fermiboson (talk) 09:38, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea why you are asking this question. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 18:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there an Arab League section?

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What's the point of the section if all Arab League countries have a section on their own anyway? FunLater (talk) 02:18, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, this section should be removed and its contents merged to all the relevant countries. The Arab League governments act independently on film censorship. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 22:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Sorry for the procrastination. @FunLater: Could you double-check that all of the "all Arab League" for historical accuracy based on the date? –LaundryPizza03 (d) 03:56, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The wording on 'No More Bets' under the 'Cambodia' tab doesn't make sense

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The wording contained in the 'Notes' section for the film 'No More Bets' under the 'Cambodia' tab doesn't make sense and needs changing. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 22:52, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NEW ARTICLE REQUEST ALERT!!

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i want an article called "list of banned shows by country" because i wanna know which more shows are banned in different countries. Misy123 (talk) 22:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Split: Germany

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The result of this discussion was split. I've split the article to List of films banned in Germany, but the first sentence I wrote is bad; please improve it if you can. FunLater (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


The section on Germany has gotten quite large, and spans multiple regimes. Would it not make sense to split it off into its own article? Sink Cat (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that. Germany has a vast history about censorship and banning media thoughout the times. But we should also make clear, that the list should be about actually banned movies (meaning those banned by an actual court of law making it illegal to distribute those movies) and those that are just restricted to adults by the Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons (this could become its own list) or refused by the FSK should be kept out of that list. The list of video games was packed with titles that are just restricted or adult only. The Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons has an official magazine about harmful media and the official modern lists of restricted and banned media called BzKJ-Aktuell. But the list of banned media wasn't published since issue 1/2022 - so nobody knows if there are new films on the banned list but a bunch of old films were taken off that list since then (e.g. Halloween II). Chris Retro (talk) 11:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Country list redundancy

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Numerous countries have existing banned films lists, yet still have content on this list when it should be split out. Ex: Australia Sink Cat (talk) 19:10, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]