Talk:Bank of New South Wales

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Maintenance edits

@Eddaido: Sorry, I didn't think I would need to explain the edit considering I was just making a simple copyedit, but my edit to the infobox and lead did six simple things:

Unbolded the brackets on either side of the acronym, per MOS:BOLDSYN
Clarified in the infobox that BNSW was merged to form Westpac, not renamed to Westpac, per both the article's contents, Commercial Bank of Australia, and Westpac
Moved the defunct date out of the fate parameter and info the proper defunct parameter
Moved the location out of the founded (used for the start date) parameter into the hq_location_city parameter
Converted the static dates to the preferenced {{start date}} and {{end date}} templates
Removed unused template parameters

With all due respect, and I truly don't mean to be rude or anything of that sort, how come you've asked me to explain these edits? I just want to make sure that I haven't missed anything or accidentally vandalised the article. ItsPugle (please use {{ping|ItsPugle}} on reply) 13:35, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'd say your proper (self-chosen?) job was the (I presume) updating of date formats and, if someone follows up closely and reverts you, another revert by you without thought might be unwise? Lots of boyish enthusiasm? Nevertheless glad to have got your attention, I have corrected the article. Eddaido (talk) 04:59, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddaido: Sorry, what are you talking about with my proper (self-chosen?) job? There's nothing to say that my entire editorial access on Wikipedia is limited to updating dates to use templates. And I didn't revert your revert without thought - your revert message provides no description to what you object to in my edit, and I percieved that you may have been confused or may have misread by edit. I'm also not sure if you've noticed, but your most recent revert also contradicts three articles: BNSW was not "renamed" to Westpac - both this article, the Commercial Bank of Australia article, and the Westpac article describe that BNSW and the Commercial Bank merged and formed Westpac. Do you have any sources that say otherwise? Plus, how come you've reverted the link to Westpac to the old article title Westpac Banking Corporation - it's known more commonly as Westpac, which is what we should (and do) use. I also would suggest that you have a look at WP:REVEXP and WP:ROWN - it's really important to explain why you're rejecting another editor's contributions, especially ones like this which are relatively minor, and only revert when absolutely necessary. Also, describing another editor's actions as "boyish enthusiasm" and chastising someone for apparently not paying attention is not particularly civil or constructive, so I'd ask that you refrain from doing so. ItsPugle (please use {{ping|ItsPugle}} on reply) 05:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My appologies, @Eddaido:. Some futher research I did brought up some historical legislation showing that BNSW did in fact change name to Westpac after acquiring the Commercial Bank of Australia. I'm now in the process of going through these three articles and updating it where necessary. Still, a more helpful revert message could have avoided all this debackle, ItsPugle (please use {{ping|ItsPugle}} on reply) 13:40, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

YEAH? well, the link to the NSW Legislation you have just discovered ! was there when you made the mistaken (!!) change. Hope its still there. The company is still Westpac Banking Corporation not that I'm shouting of course. Eddaido (talk) 04:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Short title

@Eddaido: With reference to the short title, BNSW was a state (in terms of public) bank by virtue of the Bank of New South Wales Act 1850. To avoid any confusion between state (public) and State (governance division), I've readded the short title with the "colonial" delimiter. ItsPugle (please use {{ping|ItsPugle}} on reply) 11:33, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is magnificent !. !! You are a very funny man / woman. That latest paragraph above looks like the most complete nonsense to me. What you have now put in the replacement also looks like complete nonsense to me. But now it is not so grossly misleading as the statement I deleted. Now it just reads as an entry by someone very confused.

The State Bank of New South Wales was something quite different from what became Westpac. You really would be better making these kinds of edits to subjects you know something about. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 08:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are so good at taking guidance. I got the idea from you that the short title was something to do with your maintenance. If it is actually used then the fact that it is nonsense does matter. Would you please remove the first word, Colonial, Thank you, Eddaido (talk) 02:42, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]