Talk:Bangladesh–Malaysia relations/Archive 1

Archive 1

Edit war by Ranking Update

I am having to face repeated reverts from User:Ranking Update for very ambiguous reasons. Croatia-Hungary relations doesn't serve as a standard for this article. For god sakes, please raise specific issues if you have any. The content you are removing is referenced and your edit war is unacceptable.--Bazaan (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Who start an edit war first! Don't be a dick here! And you said you put a reference? Where is your reference? You the one who remove the reference here! Didn't you see the total trade has been mention on the Economic relations section? So what's your point to remove the lead sentence together with its reference? — "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 14:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

You also put this reference, but didn't you see the content is already same with this?. — "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 14:43, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Stop making personal attacks and blatant lies. A new and reliably referenced lead has been removed in favor of a very general description of BD-Malaysia ties. Given that the two countries attach crucial economic and political importance to their relations, the lead should reflect this.--Bazaan (talk) 14:45, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Personal attack and blatant lies? You the one who start the war! Who develop this article since its been redirected on 2009 huh? What's you point remove the lead sentence and its reference!? and YOU also insert a duplicated SENTENCE with a SAME CONTENT REFERENCE with THIS.!— "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 14:52, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Why are you being so malicious? Of course I can duplicate a sentence with an improved one, that's point of this being an open encyclopedia! Will you not allow anyone to build on your work to "develop this article"? Again, please raise specific issues, if you have any, related to the topic. Or else face revert--Bazaan (talk) 15:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Malicious? Even I started developing it first but I don't take it as my own article. My main question is what's your point to remove the lead together with the high commission website and the city name? I allow anyone to contribute there, but with your attitude like this and keep reverting others edit, who doesn't get mad with you. You can't duplicated some sentence like this [1] Both nations are members of the Commonwealth, the OIC, the Developing 8 Countries and NAM. and Both countries are the members of the Commonwealth of Nations, OIC, and the Asian Union (see the link). Haha, you said face revert?? Or I'm the one who will going to report you to administrator?. — "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 15:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hey guys the way you two are talking isn't the standard way to communicate between each other. Talk politely to each other and you'll get a solution. @Bazaan: obviously you can duplicated a sentence with the improved one but you can't duplicate it again and again in a sentence. WP always allows every user to do good work and those works are appreciated. But this doesn't mean that you can do anything to build your own work. You need to follow the standard policy and guidelines. Now it's a very specific issue that you are adding same things and the page history is talking against your comments. R.Update is very specific about his comments and he is right. So what you are doing is not right. Please do some good edits. Now Ranking Update you can't fully take credit of expanding any article. (Who develop this article since its been redirected on 2009 huh?).At end it'll be very good if you please stop this dispute and improve the article. Thanks. --Pratyya ^(Hello!) 15:40, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I fail to understand what the problem is here. What is wrong with rewording a few sentences in actual prose?--Bazaan (talk) 15:46, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Ranking Update is definitely not being specific. Please raise issues related to the topic. This discussion needs an opinion from someone on WikiProject IR.--Bazaan (talk) 15:49, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Pratyya. I will take this word from now "Staying cool when the editing gets hot". Yup, sorry for saying that word due to so mad with this user. I'm also acknowledged with the OWA rule. Again, thanks! — "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 15:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

@Bazaan: if you are talking about WP: International Relationship then I'm a member of that project. R.Update has stopped this dispute now please stop that from your side. I understand what you are saying. But unfortunately your editing is wrong. If you need any help ask any user (even R.Update) he/she'll help you his/her best but a dispute will never give you an estimated result. Thanks very much and happy editing. --Pratyya ^(Hello!) 15:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Prattya, then let's get specific. BD-Malaysia relations go far beyond the mere presence of high commissions, and cover very extensive economic and political cooperation. Trade and economic ties are the most important aspect of Bangladesh foreign relations; and Malaysia is one of our largest trading partners and also one of our largest foreign investors. The two governments have strong ties since 1972, when Malaysia and Indonesia were among the first Muslim countries to recognize Bangladesh. In more recent years, if you've followed the news, you'll see that there have been regular high-level visits between our PMs. Malaysia has also proposed to build the Padma Bridge. Bangladesh is an even an issue in Malaysian domestic politics, with the Anwar Ibrahim-led opposition, including its Islamic conservative allies, targeting Bangladeshi workers and the war crimes tribunal. The two countries are highly intertwined. Also, given the heritage of ancient and medieval contacts between Bengal and the Malay peninsula, the words "much less cultural connections" seems to be a deliberate attempt to undermine our common cultural heritage. I have serious questions regarding the impartiality of user:Ranking Update.--Bazaan (talk) 16:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if you've actually read what I wrote fully wrote. But my version simply takes into accounts the most important and notable aspects of our relationship- 1) strong fraternal ties between two Muslim-majority regional neighbours 2) common membership in the Commonwealth (which is a very strong link), OIC, D-8, and NAM. The Asian Union dosen't exist. It mentions the fact that Malaysia was one of the first countries to recognize BD, which it did on 25 Feb 1972. And finally, it mentions the trade volume and investment between the two countries.--Bazaan (talk) 16:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay, going with most of the bilateral relations articles, the mention about the embassies and common international memberships in the lead seems legit. While, the volume of bilateral trade between Bangladesh and Malaysia also deserves a mention in the lead even if it's already mentioned in the "Economic relations" section, per WP:MOSINTRO. --Zayeem ^(talk) 18:47, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Did I remove common memberships? And ofcourse embassies are legit, but instead of voicing the need for that to be there, Ranking Update and Prattya here go on a harangue. Very dishonest.--Bazaan (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Now enough! Follow the MoS. I get my half and your get your parts, deal with it? — "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 19:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Watch your attitude buddy, we're not dealing with anything here. You could have come to this conclusion much earlier instead making things so ugly.--Bazaan (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

You the one who should watch your attitude, not me! Let's just end this stupid fight here. — "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴ ^ᴡʜᴜᴛ? 15:30, 22 March 2014 (UTC)