Talk:Bangkok Noi railway station
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Requested move 11 March 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus that, in its current form, this article predominantly discusses the railway station rather than the museum that occupies the location now. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Bangkok Noi railway station → Siriraj Bimuksthan Museum – Article title should be updated, as "Siriraj Bimuksthan Museum" is the official name per File:SIRIRAJ BIMUKSTHAN MUSEUM - Bldg 1 - panoramio.jpg and th:พิพิธภัณฑ์ศิริราชพิมุขสถาน. - Jjpachano (talk)
- Support. 〜Festucalex • talk • contribs 08:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 15:56, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom - Tbf69 🛈 🗩 17:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose for now, as article creator. The official name of the museum isn't really relevant to what the title of this article should be. (See also WP:OFFICIALNAME). Currently, the bulk of the short article is about its historic role as the railway terminus, so it would be more appropriate to retain the current title unless and until the article is restructured to cover more of its present-day functions. And that isn't necessarily a given, as they could very well be covered as separate articles (compare for example Front Palace (Bangkok) and Bangkok National Museum). --Paul_012 (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Since it is now as the site of Sayamindradhiraj Medical Institute, the title should be given as the current title that can make understand for the viewers, similar to the Prime F. Osborn III Convention Center and Radisson Lackawanna Station Hotel - Jjpachano (talk) 02:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- That's a clearer rationale than the original nomination, but as I said, it's not a given. Will readers be looking more for the historical station or the museum, and which is the focus of the article? There are plenty of counter-examples where articles are named after the former station, e.g. Hamburger Bahnhof, Butler station (New York, Susquehanna and Western Railway), Central of Georgia Depot and Trainshed (Savannah, Georgia), Corinth Depot (Mississippi), Dade City station, Gettysburg station, Great Overland Station, etc. I would strongly suggest expanding the article to include more about the museum (if it isn't made a separate article) before renaming. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:13, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Since it is now as the site of Sayamindradhiraj Medical Institute, the title should be given as the current title that can make understand for the viewers, similar to the Prime F. Osborn III Convention Center and Radisson Lackawanna Station Hotel - Jjpachano (talk) 02:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- or else if we going to focus as a former railway station rather than a current museum, i suggest that the article should merge into Thon Buri railway station since they are related both of them, so that the Thon Buri railway station will be expand. Jjpachano (talk)
- Merging the stations wouldn't be appropriate, as they concurrently operated as separate stations. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:53, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- or else if we going to focus as a former railway station rather than a current museum, i suggest that the article should merge into Thon Buri railway station since they are related both of them, so that the Thon Buri railway station will be expand. Jjpachano (talk)
- Oppose. It's notable as a station, which it was for a century, and an historic building, not a museum, which it's been for only nine years. WP:OFFICIALNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Focus
[edit]User:Jjpachano, I'm not necessarily opposed to reworking the article to focus more on the building's present use. I see you've done some editing to that effect, but perhaps the infobox should also be changed to {{Infobox building}} instead? --Paul_012 (talk) 20:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)