Talk:Banded stilt/GA1

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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 08:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not much left to do bird-wise at FAC, so I'll get back to GANs... FunkMonk (talk) 08:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The photos used show the birds form afar, so I'm wondering whether this one could maybe be added, which shows them a little closer?[1]

yeah, that is a little closer...switched Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm always a sucker for more images, so perhaps the old photo could be placed somewhere else in the largely empty article? I'll look at Flickr later to see if there are some usable images... FunkMonk (talk) 13:15, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This free Flickr photo of a flock taking flight is kind of striking:[2] This photo of a flock with some avocets also seems better than the one currently in the article.[3] FunkMonk (talk) 17:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

cool - uploaded one and added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seems strange that Vieillot depicted the bird with a recurved beak[4], when the photos show straight beaks. Any explanation for this? The text here also doesn't state whether the beak is straight or curved, so it is a bit confusing.

The definitive and exhaustive HANZAB source (amazingly) does not specify whether the bill is straight or curved upwards. My own recollection and also observation of photos is that the bill is very slightly upcurved. I will see if a source discusses the shape of the bill somewhere Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some authorities are presented with occupation and nationality, others are not, should probably be consistent.

added most...but a bit stuck with latter-day ones. I am not sure Strauch and Chu would call themselves either by occupation or nationality. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:17, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"L'avocette a tete blanche" If we include French sentences, they should be explained.

English name added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Leptorhynchus pectoralis, to the Royal Academy of Belgium in 1835." Needs citation.

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:03, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"noting that the name Leptorhynchus had been previously used" For what?

the source does not say. However, I can see it's been used for a genus of beetle of the family Brentidae but I can't find a source for that. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You state it was initially placed in Recurvirostra, but you don't link it or explain that this was an already existing genus with other species in it.

ok, I tweaked the prose Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd spell out sister taxon, simply saying "sister" seems too esoteric for regular readers.

unabbreviated Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:41, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"the species has also been called locally Rottnest snipe" The placement of "locally" here seems odd to me, but well, I'm no native Anglophone...

Just a local name used in the area (i.e. on Rottnest Island) and not elsewhere Cas Liber (talk · contribs)

"attack by (presumably) foxes" Why is parenthesis needed here? Just saying "presumably by foxes" would be less convoluted?

unbracketed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:41, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"1500 km", "20,000 km2", and "2263 km". Conversions?

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You introduce Reece Peddler with full name and occupation twice in succession.

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Birds on nests always face into the wind." Why is this shoert sentence hanging alone? Seems it would fit in the former paragraph.

moved Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Baby banded stilts are covered in white down." Nestling? "Baby" seems very general and anthropomorphic.

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Birds also chatter softly and tunefully while on the nest." The italics here seem to be a mistake (inherited from the former sentence?).

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd move the paragraph about clutches before the text about incubation.

Hmm, I did this as I couldn't bring myself to move discussion on young birds to before incubation. So it keeps some sort of chronological/developmental order Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I thought I had removed this point (after I saw that nestlings were also discussed), you can move it back where it was before if you want... FunkMonk (talk) 08:21, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"—and mobile with open eyes (precocial)" And are? Or just are?

the "mobile" relates to the "born" as in "born (xxx) and mobile". Does that sound odd? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Banded stilts migrate to these lakes in large numbers and assembling in large breeding colonies." And assemble?

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"three to four white, brown or black eggs" The breeding section says they are white with black or brown splotches. The intro makes it seem like the entire eggs can be black or brown...

not sure how that happened...fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need scientific names for other mentioned species in the intro?

I guess to does come across as a bit labored...removed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All looks good, before passing, I'd like to see if something on the shape of the bill can be found after all... Seems it would be good to clarify in relation to its relatives, which seem to have much curvier beaks... FunkMonk (talk) 08:21, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then straight says Birdlife Australia, as do these RSes [5], [6] sigh... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:07, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have added that it is relatively straight, which it is compared with the red-necked avocet, and reffed it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:40, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, will pass it now. FunkMonk (talk) 11:31, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]