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Question re: Italian

The Italian for "Mount of Piety" is monte di pietà not Monte dei Paschi. So, when did this particular bank or mountain (assuming it got its start as one of the "mounts of piety" in the 15th century) change its name, adopting Paschi? (Pasture)? Anyone know? --Christofurio (talk) 19:51, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Clean-up edits

Real good detail – & not too much – on recent developments. With the dust settling maybe a little, I came back to do some clean-up.

  • Clearly Ital.-English translation going on. I hope I've interpreted and adapted it satisfactorily to smoother English.
  • On the ilsole24ore.com sources, one after another, I've taken the intra-address words, still with dashes (-) included, to be "titles" of the individual stories; ilsole is then the "work", the source, in italics; since always the two dates were the same I've just left one; "Retrieved on __/__/__" or the like could be added if wish.
  • Also, on citations, this formulation – <ref name="ilsole24ore.com"> – to start all those citations in the setup, all in that same way, didn't work at all. That formulation left all eight ilsole cites the same — the "finanza-e-mercati/2013-01-24" one. All else dropped out. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monte_dei_Paschi_di_Siena&diff=535517328&oldid=535304533 old page here, to see how it was.) Now there are seven, individuated. They could certainly be upgraded further with their real headlines in place of the address-words I've used. Addition of the writer's or writers' name(s) as well if available would be good.
  • There are only seven ilsole cites because two of the eight went to the same article, "mussari-lascia". It's now a multiple-cite ("a b"), accordingly.
  • I've left in for now the <br/> breaks after every sentence or two. I wanted to take many out and make more regular text paragraphs. However, I felt maybe the citations didn't "carry" across the breaks. If they don't, then citations ought to be found for the sentences ending at breaks without citations. Then paragraphs can be created.
  • More on sources: I'd feel better with more breadth of sourcing on all this. If other sources with, say, more breadth or insight, for instance, could be found and added with bits more text, the article could be further improved. I came back to the article when the big bailout made the news in the US and did, thus, add another source in the process. But it's not too detailed. I'll maybe do some looking on this front in English. Italian or other sources would also be good. Der Spiegel can be interesting; and can be in English, as another suggestion.
  • Several translation/detail uncertainties: "Mps" I made "MPS" to be consistent with rest of article. Monti and Tremonti Bonds were unexplained; I've added links to Mario and Giulio respectively, I think appropriately. The "delegation of the extraordinary" doesn't read right in English. Delegation from where or whom? "Special delegation", maybe "extraordinary delegation". "He voted for more than 98%": One person? "The shareholders approved with a 98% vote in favor", maybe? Just don't know.

Hope I haven't taken a "teaching tone"; hope it's understood. More to do but good start. Glad to help, just ask. Cheers. Swliv (talk) 02:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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MyWay and ForYou; the case of Davide Rossi

The title indicates two relvant parts of the bank's hostory which aren't yet referred in the article. Two possible sources are a this article on the role of Satanist Freemasonry and this Master degree dissertation in Economics for a more comprehensive and WP:NPOV historical section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.14.138.243 (talk) 23:11, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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