Talk:Banana Fish/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tintor2 (talk · contribs) 03:46, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing this article. It looks like to be in a nice state so I'm pretty sure it will pass. I'll ping you once I notice any issue or something.Tintor2 (talk) 03:46, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

"()" are not recommended as far as I recall.
- I've used bracketed glosses to describe terms that would be unfamiliar to a general audience (shōjo manga, yaoi, etc) in basically every anime/manga article I've ever written and it's never been an issue.
The intro to the series' reception is put in the middle rather than in the bottom. I would include in the bottom of the lead since it's the last section from the article.
- Done.
"making it one of the earliest manga series to reach a wide audience in the United States." This seems part of reception that could be moved to that paragraph.
- I feel like the text flows better discussed next to the section on the English language release, plus the second graf of the lead is already pretty long.

Plot

"Ash was a former enforcer and child sex slave to Golzine, having been groomed from a young age to become the eventual heir to his criminal empire." remember fiction is always written in present tense so it would be "Ash is a former enforcer and child sex slave to Golzine,"
- Clarified.

Characters

Since there is already an article for the characters and this section repeats information from the plot I suggest moving the link to plot like ((see also List of Banana Fish characters))
- Done.

Context

Same as before "Shōjo manga (Japanese girls' comics)" For an easier introduction to the section it could go as ""Manga aimed towards Japanese girls, Shōjo," Same with shonen-ai. Maybe the first paragraph could be toned down a bit since it doesn't feel too much like Yoshida content unless it could be rearranged to start with Yoshida's links to previous shojo manga.
- In many places that just turns the sentence into a massive run-on, so I've just preserved the glosses as-is. Part of the significance of Banana Fish was that it subverted many of the typical codes of shojo manga, so I think the article needs to devote some space to explaining what those conventions are to a lay reader. I've moved the third paragraph of the section down to "Development" per your suggestion, so I think the Context section reads a lot easier now.
The third paragraph feels more like an analysis too rather than how Yoshida decided to create the manga. Maybe move it somewhere else?
- Moved to Development.

Development

Minor but I'm pretty sure there is a free pic of Stefan Edberg (it kinda seems there is material to give Ash his own article)
- All the free pics are of middle-aged Edberg, which I don't think is especially relevant to the section. Ideally the section would include an image of Edberg in his youth when his resemblance to Ash was much more obvious, but there is no licensable image. And I agree that there's probably enough material to give Ash his own article, but fictional character articles just aren't really my area of interest, so perhaps another editor might pick it up. (Would be weird if Ash got his own article before Gilbert Cocteau, who is by a wide margin the more famous/influential blonde pretty boy male-male romance manga protagonist, though.)

Gender

The explanation of what is a bishonen could be toned down too.
- Done.
The rest seems fine. In reception there is another link to boys though.
- Removed.
I'm not sure if a brief mention to the anime is needed in reception so I leave it up to you to decide.
- The sources are pretty lacking (there's a THEM Anime review that's basically just a plot summary, and ANN did episode-by-episode reviews that are too granular for this article's purpose) so I didn't include any.

@Morgan695: This is all. Just solve these issues and I'll gladly pass it.Tintor2 (talk) 15:55, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. Don't feel any pressure. Ping me when there is no other issue. About anime reception I often placed it but there wasn't too much with other adaptation other than X (TV series) since such series took quite a different route from the original manga.Tintor2 (talk) 23:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2:, Hi, response above. Morgan695 (talk) 23:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]