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The route diagram template for this article can be found in Template:Baltimore Metro SubwayLink.

Have you all seen this? Template:Baltimore Light Rail Diagram

main template Wikipedia:Route diagram template

AWESOME! I'm working on it here... Feel free to help: --Eplack

By hand this is hard...

I'm the one who made the light rail template -- thanks for the kind words! I actually also made a Metro template as well (you can see it here) but decided not to overwrite the existing color line map template created by User:Dkendr. If there's consensus that the German-style table is better, though, you're welcome to use mine as a basis (I know there's stuff that's been left out). --Jfruh (talk) 15:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I personally like the German style one better, and thanks to Jfruh for implementing it! How did you do it? (by hand or with a program)...--Eplack (talk) 17:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 10:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Metro Subway → Baltimore Metro Subway – Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC) Over redirect. This was apparently the original name for the page, but was moved as the MTA Maryland web site omits the "Baltimore". However, that is an expected omission; they also omit the "Baltimore" from their light rail pages, as the "Baltimore" is implied by them. While there's no other system that uses the exact name "Metro Subway", it's an extremely uninformative name in its genericism, and the full term "Baltimore Metro Subway" is common enough to avoid confusion. oknazevad (talk) 13:07, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I agree with the observation of their own site omitting "Baltimore" as implied (WMATA's site just refers to itself as the "Metro" system). However, I can't find evidence of "Baltimore Metro Subway" being in common use. For example, articles in The Baltimore Sun generally seem to use "subway" or "metro" more often than "metro subway". They also often use "Baltimore subway" or "Baltimore metro. The only Sun item I see using the three-word name writes it as "Baltimore Metro subway and bus operations" as if "Metro" is the name of the system, which includes subways, rather than "Metro Subway" at all. I would support a move to Baltimore Subway or Baltimore Metro since that seems to be more commonly used and also specific enough to avoid ambiguity. As a parallel example, we have the Washington Metro article based on this same pattern: location + common-use name even though its formal name according to our article is not "Metro" and does not include "Washington" either. DMacks (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would object to any name that doesn't include the phrase "Metro Subway" as that is the most commonly used term and proper name. I just feel that the unadorned version lacks precision enough for an article title. A quickie Google search, with "Baltimore Metro Subway" in quotes for an exact phrase, returns 11,600 results, which doesn't seem uncommon to me. oknazevad (talk) 17:34, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I note that the category for stations is at Category:Baltimore Metro Subway stations. oknazevad (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also get about 11K for "baltimore metro system" and 10K for ["baltmore subway" -sandwich]. I can't craft a good pattern for "baltimore metro" alone because so many "baltimore metro area" and related false-positives. DMacks (talk) 20:09, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, looking at the results, it seems that there isn't really an overwhelming common name. As such, we have a choice of names. The considerations, to me at least, are that the name is a) concise, b) unambiguous, c) accurate and d) not uncommon. To me "Baltimore Metro Subway" fulfills them, as it is a short tile that isn't generic and is attested, yet accurately includes the "Metro Subway" combination that is the line's proper name.

The biggest flaw with the current title, and the reason I propsed the move, is that omitting any location makes it too generic. While it seems that no other system uses the exact name "Metro Subway", it's something someone looking for the general article on rapid transit might search for, not knowing where the article is located. oknazevad (talk) 04:32, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support the current title is highly ambiguous, as it can refer to any metropolitan subway (ie. most of them), or any subway named Metro (ie. Washington Metrorail). 184.144.163.181 (talk) 03:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support per nom. I never felt it should simply be called "Metro Subway." ----DanTD (talk) 00:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Subways of most major cities, including the famous Paris Metro, are called some variation of "Metro", so the current title is extremely ambiguous. Softlavender (talk) 07:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm the original creator of this article, and I'm reasonably sure when I created it I called it "Baltimore Metro Subway." If I didn't, I should have, for all the reasons listed above. --Jfruh (talk) 01:06, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Now that this article has been renamed, we should probably rename the station articles so the parenthetical disambiguators read (Baltimore Metro Subway station) instead of (Metro Subway station) which is pretty ambiguous. I moved Owings Mills, but wanted input before continuing. oknazevad (talk) 22:30, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Owings Mills

Milford Mill

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