Talk:Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus

Covers

FreeKnowledgeCreator Is it possible to add an image of the alternate art cover by Hydro74 in the Publication history section? I'm not sure what the process is to add images. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:09, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

The word "into" shouldn't be capitalized in the title

I believe the word "into" (in the name of the book, as it appears in the title and body of the article) should be lowercase, per MOS:TITLECAPS:

Prepositions containing four letters or fewer (as, in, of, on, to, for, from, into, like, over, with, upon, etc.); but see above for instances where these words are not used as prepositions

The "above" section mentioned there refers to "Words that have the same form as prepositions, but are not being used specifically as prepositions", i.e. as particles of phrasal verbs and as the first word in a compound preposition. Neither of those applies here, as far as I know; it's neither a phrasal verb nor the first word in a compound preposition.

And various sources do have "into" in lowercase in this title: D&D Beyond, Roll20, Beadle & Grimm's (the "Silver Edition" link text at the bottom, and this YouTube announcement for it), VentureBeat, ScreenRant, WizKids (throughout the body of the page - as well as "into" being entirely in small caps in the graphic at the top, in contrast to the clearly taller first letters of every other word in the name), etc. Also, though it's not a "reliable source", the Forgotten Realms wiki article for the book also has "into" in lowercase. Some other sources may differ in this regard, but those sites also likely have different capitalization policies (especially those that just indiscriminately capitalize all words in titles, including prepositions).

I'm not anticipating any objections, since it seems to entirely correspond with Wikipedia policy and is also matched by various official distributors and other reliable sources. As such, I'm going to go ahead and make the change now. V2Blast (talk) 07:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hardcover non-fiction

Not sure how this works, but there's a line that says this is hardcover non-fiction. That ain't true, unless we're in some really trippy alternate timeline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.43.76 (talk) 05:42, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Publishers Weekly's places role-playing game books in the "Hardcover Nonfiction" category for their bestseller lists. The sourcebook isn't just a fictional story; it is also a guide to running a game and has other game material in it (magic items, stat blocks, etc). Sariel Xilo (talk) 15:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Word choice (prequel vs prologue)

Hello Sariel. I think we disagree on what a prequel is. According to this same Wikipedia, too, a prequel is a work of fiction released later, but taking place earlier than the original work. Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus was published before Baldur's Gate III, therefore it is not a prequel, but a prologue. The quoted people who called it a "prequel" are wrong. It is not my personal opinion, it is the definition of the word "prequel". --Abacos (talk) 00:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Note: Preceding comment originated at User talk:Sariel Xilo & was copied over by Sariel Xilo (talk) 00:57, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

@Abacos: Wikipedia editors don't alter quotes from reliable sources even if we disagree with their word choice nor do we add unsourced commentary; we should also never alter the title of a source because that can harm in the identification of a source. While you may not like that sources used the word prequel, per ComicBook.com the developers themselves referred to it as a "pen and paper prequel" at E3 in 2019 which subsequently informed the word choice of multiple sources. Sariel Xilo (talk) 00:57, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

I think the right thing to do is, whenever possible, go with what the sources say. 207.229.139.154 (talk) 02:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

• Fact 1: it is a prequel, according to the developers.
• Fact 2: it is not a prequel, according to the definition of the word "prequel" (source: Wikipedia's "Prequel" page and its Prequel#References section).

The two facts are in contradiction. Wikipedia should be neutral, but also report correct information (this is why I added the [sic]). Is it neutral enough if I state that "Developers call it a prequel, but this is in contradiction with the definition of prequel"? Can something like that be included, even as a footnote? --Abacos (talk) 10:28, 4 November 2022 (UTC)