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Repeated Deletion by Bahá'í Editors of Relevant Material

The following statement has been repeatedly deleted from this page by various Bahá'í editors under various pretenses. The material is sourced from an archived Bahá'í News article...

"Some of the Bahá'í Gardens were built on land that was expropriated from absentee Palestinian owners and Muslim endowments subsequent to the Nakba." ^[1]^[2]

"Masra'ih is a Moslem religious endowment, and it is consequently impossible, under existing laws in this country, for it to be sold. However, as the friends are aware, the Ministry of Religions, due to the direct intervention of the Minister himself, Rabbi Maimon, consented, in the face of considerable opposition, to deliver Masra'ih to the Baha'is as a Holy Place to be visited by Baha'i pilgrims. This means that we rent it from the Department of Moslem and Druze affairs in the Ministry of Religions. The head of this Department is also a Rabbi, Dr. Hirschberg. Recently he, his wife and party, visited all the Baha'i properties in Haifa and 'Akka, following upon a very pleasant tea party in the Western Pilgrim House with the members of the International Baha'i Council."^[1] (Baha'i News, no. 244, June 1951, p. 4)

The Mansion of Mazra'ih, often referred to by the beloved Guardian as one of the "twin mansions" in which the Blessed Beauty resided after nine years within the walled prison-city of 'Akká, and dear to the hearts of the believers by reason of its associations with their Lord, has at last been purchased together with 24,000 square meters of land extending into the plain on its eastward side."^[2] (Messages from the Universal House of Justice 1968-1973, published 1976; Ridván Message 1973, p. 119)

^ ^a ^b Holley, Horace (June 1951). "International Baha'i Council Haifa, Israel". Bahá'í News. No. 244. Retrieved May 10, 2016.
^ ^a ^b Universal House of Justice (1976). "Ridván Message 1973". Messages from the Universal House of Justice 1968-1973. Wilmette, IL: Baha'i Publishing Trust. p. 113. ISBN 0-87743-076-4.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by A35821361 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is you continuously interpreted the facts reported to mean various things none of which are reported in the text or are clear on inspection. Briefly your interpretations need their own citations. And "various reasons" includes a self-published webpage and clearly lacking credibility. --Smkolins (talk) 10:20, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Even more to the point - as I have pointed out again and again, the reference refers to a particular building. Mazra'ih is not a site of any Baha'i gardens - it has not been expropriated by the Baha'is - after years of renting the property itself they were finally allowed to purchase it, against some opposition. This could perhaps be the subject of a NPOV note on the section about Mazra'ih in another article. ``Soundofmusicals (talk) 00:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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[Mazraih_1-1] Holley, Horace (June 1951). "International Baha'i Council Haifa, Israel". Bahá'í News. No. 244. Retrieved May 10, 2016.

[Mazraih_2-2] Universal House of Justice (1976). "Ridván Message 1973". Messages from the Universal House of Justice 1968-1973. Wilmette, IL: Baha'i Publishing Trust. p. 113. ISBN 0-87743-076-4.

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