Talk:Baháʼí Faith in Bosnia and Herzegovina

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religion and communist period

Vipz, since you've taken an interest, and thank you, I wonder if you could help more. Since, as you corrected, Yugoslavia had nothing to do with the Soviet Block because, as I learned, of the Tito-Stalen split, how would you incorporate the Yugoslavia#Demographics period since it is parallel to, but not covered by Soviet anti-religious legislation, aka Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union#Policy_toward_religions_in_practice. The Yugoslavian version(s) were certainly relevant? Smkolins (talk) 10:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article feels like original research as none of these things are mentioned in the given sources, the article barely deals with Bosnia and Herzegovina and primarily deals with growth in Iran and Europe as a whole. Sadly we don't yet have good articles written on religion in Yugoslavia, religions were certainly stigmatized, but not to the extent of Soviet Union (for example, Catholic Church was allowed to have an active role in Yugoslavia and Serbian Orthodox Church had "favorable treatment" - also see Holy See–Yugoslavia relations, Freedom of religion in Serbia#Socialist Yugoslavia), gluing crimes, persecution and policies in other socialist/communist states to Yugoslavia (which was much more liberal and easier on religions) or "communism" as a whole is neither correct or in good faith. Only events that happened in Yugoslavia (of which BiH was part of) belong to the article, not Moscow or Turkmenistan. -Vipz (talk) 10:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I made such a mistake. I had tried to research and I think there is something to communist period as I affirmed above, but made the mistake of directly applying the Russian context which was wrong. But I urge you to recalibrate examining my good faith efforts to overcome one example of the work on, as you say, "good articles written on religion in Yugoslavia." I welcome you making the article better. I'm not sure what mean by "none of these things are mentioned in the given sources". Smkolins (talk) 22:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Smkolins: Sorry for that harsh "good faith" sentence. It's a common mistake to think Yugoslavia, being a communist country, was a satelite of Soviet Union (it was for only 3 years post-WWII). I do have in plans to create Religion in Yugoslavia article at some point (I'll have Baháʼí Faith included, I didn't know it existed until now). Early post-war years (especially 1945–'48 before the Tito-Stalin split) were rough for Catholic clergy considered to have collaborated with Axis during the war (best known example - Alojzije Stepinac). Religion classes in schools were replaced with classes on Criticism of religion, a few hundreds of Muslim protesters were arrested in 1949 and 1950. But religion was normalized in late 1950s and 1960s, especially after establishment of the Non-Aligned Movement - Yugoslavia eased secularization, started encouraging Muslims in its diplomatic service (as it had many Muslim countries in this Non-Aligned Movement), was the only socialist country to establish good relations with the Holy See (already linked above), rebuilt Orthodox monasteries, etc.

To explain "none of these things are mentioned in the given sources" - "sources" are those references you use after your sentences, from which you cite proof for content you wrote in the article. The few references that mention Yugoslavia do not once mention Soviet Union. -Vipz (talk) 02:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]