Talk:Baalveer/Archive 1

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adding half of information on this wiki, but it's been changed and Redirected to Baal Veer. Why is this happen every time?, Why I am not able to create this wiki???.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 03:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

because you need to show that the subject meets the criteria for a stand alone article. Until you do, it will continue to be redirected, and continuing to attempt to recreated it without providing appropriate sourcing will lead you to being blocked -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I know, all articles in wikipedia need to have right source. I also have right source on this page, I doesn't copyright it from any websites. I think you removed my source without no reason.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 04:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Your version didnt have ANY sources. It is generally a good idea talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom]] 04:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I do have a lot of sources, but you removed my soures very fast, that's why I don't get time to write that all. You need to give peoples little time to create articles, You also know creating articls takes long time.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 04:15, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

like i said, if you use your sandbox to get your sources in place first before moving it to live space, you will have ALL THE TIME YOU WANT.

But in addition, the sources only cover him in relation to a single event, the TV show and so the person in such a situation does not get an article about themselves, the event (TV SHOW) does. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:18, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I know he is only play in one show, but he is the Main Character of the show and he is being playing Baal Veer more then 1years. You know, we have an permission to create Television Celebrities Article.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 04:32, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

No, you have permission to create articles that reliably published sources have covered in a significant manner. Please read the policies. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

We can also create an article of television Celebrities, who play only one show. I think we have to create Dev Joshi article, because he is also an celebrity, and wiki policies also gives permission to create television celebrities wiki, so I think you have to support me to create this article, you don't have to remove it.--74.99.138.225 (talk) 21:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Only if they have had significant coverage outside of the one show. this guy hasnt. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

What you mean he doesn't have significant coverage?, he is most popular child actor in india today. He also received the award from Sab Ke Anokhe Awards for popular child Artist. He also play main character on the show Baal Veer on age 12. Do you think we need more then that information to create this article. For example look at this article Bhavya Gandhi, he also play only one show, either not main character, but he also had an wiki. Dev Joshi is the main character of the show and he is also more popular then Bhavya Gandhi, but he still doesn't have no Article.--74.99.138.225 (talk) 21:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, THAT MEAN YOU ARE AGREE WITH ME. SO I AM ABLE TO CREATE THIS ARTICLE.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 22:20, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I AM NOT REQUIRED TO RESPOND ON YOUR COMMAND and please stop shouting. You have yet to present any reason why this person who is noted only for one event should have a stand alone article other than your claim that "he is the most popular actor". Show there there is any coverage by reliable sources about him that are not focused on his relationship to the show. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:24, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Peoples are famous for their job, they are not popular when they were birth. Thats why Dev is also popular for his job on his show. You know all celebrities have their article, because of their job. Non of wikipedia admin's stop me to create this article except you. Superstar Shahrukh Khan is also popular for his job on movies. Dev Joshi is also popular from his show.--74.99.138.225 (talk) 22:34, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Dev Joshi: his job (singular) on Baal Veer. Shahrukh Khan: his 'multiple jobs on 'multiple films. Without providing any reliable sources that show Dev Joshi is notable outside of his relationship to Baal Veer, you are wasting your time and mine. I will not be responding to any generic blather of your personal claims of how Joshi needs his own article.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:42, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

No, you are wasting your time especially mine. Celebrity is celebrity, if he is superstar or not. I know Shahrukh Khan plays multiple movies, but Dev Joshi also play an Television show and received award. there are so many celebrities wiki on Wikipedia who has wiki. I am requesting you please don't waste my time. I try to create Dev Joshi wiki but you removed it. Wikipedia is for creating articles-so I am creating it. Please, please, please... Do Not Stop me to create an article, and If you think we are wasting our time to talk about article on wikipedia, I have a question Why you create wikipedia Account???, Wikipedia account is for create, and talk about article, but you trying to stop people to create articles.--74.99.138.225 (talk) 23:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

blah blah blah blah blah. Until you show he meets the criteria outside of the one Television show there is nothing more to say. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:39, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Why you act like you are Administrator of Wikipedia, you are doing really bad to delete the article.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 23:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Yep, He is popular on outside of shows. He is in many awards and concerts shows, including: Telly Awards, SAB Ki Diwali Mela, Sab Ke Anokhe Awards, and SAB Ki Holi. He appear on least 5 awards and concerts shows.--Krishnadahal12 18:29, 27 November 2013 (UTC).

Tables not needed

Per the style guidelines for tables WP:MOS/TABLE, they should only be used when there is an obvious benefit for ordering information in columns and rows. There is no such obvious benefit when there are only 2 pieces of information, the actor and the role. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:34, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 19 June 2014

Dev Joshi

Dev Joshi (born on 28 November 2000)is an Indian child artist,who plays the role of Baalveer on the comedy show Baalveer. He started his career by giving first stage performance with Mukesh Khanna as Shaktimaan at the age of three. Dev has completed 60-65 stage programs by acting and dancing at different places and got medals and certificates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaru aarti (talk • contribs) 08:31, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 19 June 2014

Dev Joshi

Dev Joshi (born on 28 November 2000)is an Indian child artist,who plays the role of Baalveer on the comedy show Baalveer. He started his career by giving first stage performance with Mukesh Khanna as Shaktimaan at the age of three. Dev has completed 60-65 stage programs by acting and dancing at different places and got medals and certificates. He got an award from Sab Ke Anokhe Awards program for Best Child Artist. And i know many more info about him that should be written in wikipedia.Then whats the reason you<<<wikipedia>>> dnt let anybody to make wikipedia about Dev Joshi??? why???

Would someone plz use this info to make wikipedia about Indian most popular child artist which is Dev Joshi, because im not able to make because this wikipedia isnt letting me do. He is very very Intelligent and Popular these days, so why cant we make wikipedia about him???? plz do answer @wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaru aarti (talk • contribs) 08:47, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2014

This show is directed by Sanjay Satose who was also director of the Sab Tv series "Pritam Pyaare Aur Woh"

Rahul6737 (talk) 13:19, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:42, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

vikesh kumar - Baal Veer/Ballu (vikesh kumar)

When I visit this page I see Yuvraj Singh Mewara as Baal Veer/Ballu. But Baal Veer/Ballu is being played by Dev vikesh. I think someone write about the person who didn't play this show, so my question is why people write the wrong name???, sometime this name is not on this page, sometime it's added again, why peoples being doing that???.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 21:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

It may be an error or mistake. We can't obviously say that is spamming. But it is not Dev Vikesh, it is Dev Joshi. Rida Kadri (talk) 14:35, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 6 September 2016

i have information dev joshi i want write this page Shakibul Alam Risvy(Contact) 07:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

There have been concerns over notability in the past. See WP:NACTOR for more details. If you feel the subject now passes these criteria, I suggest you start a draft at Draft:Dev Joshi and see what other editors think. If it's suitable it can be moved over. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

October 2016

Hi!

It is my request to the administrators to please activate article protection, and stop the "auto acception" of edits, espacially by anonymous users. Several users are creating vandalism on article, and once I noted an abusive content on cast member Anushka Sen (on this article, and on that article too where there are so much wrong edits).

Also, a reference has been provided for the "2nd Season" of the serial, but an anonymous writes here "No. of Seasons: 1".

Baal Veer#Cast is on serious attack by several anonymous(s) (non-)users, as one add members' name and other removes, both do without explainig valid reasons, or just saying "I add/remove some/bad news about Baal Veer".

Just recent, it has been posted (by some of the cast members on their social media accounts) that the shoot of the show has been completed, and soon the show will end (go off-air). But it (the last air date) has not been announced "officially".

Please protect this article from vandalism and it's creators. And I'm sorry for my poor-english. Thanks! M.Billoo2000 (talk) 18:18, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000 I have semi-protected the article for 3 days to encourage discussion by the IP editors. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Special:Diff/797831601

Hi! Finally messaging here too. Although, there is no need as I possibly try to give edit summaries to clarify my edits. See this, where I linked Episode 901. There under description, you can see that it is written Season 2. I don't know why people don't (want to) understand.

And why do people remove information from the infobox? And talking about website, please add what is accessable, not the one which cannot be accessed. And as talked above, Cast section needs some constructive edits. Also, why some people removed/shortened Plot, with re-adding cast names there?

Maybe a (long long) while ago (just November 2016) when I was trying to keep the page maintained with some references but since then, some people are still removing the info without valid explanations. Please understand, and as I give latest edit summary to the talk page, so hope you have visited here before changing something.😂 Thanks! M. Billoo 12:52, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Cast

Hi! As the show has ended, can all the cast members be merged here? Also can years be added in front of their names? Like "Sudeepa Singh as Bahuroopi Rani Pari (2014 – 2016)" or "(DD-MM-2014 – 4 November 2016)"? Please reply, Thanks! M.Billoo2000 (talk) 15:02, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I want to remove my name from getting redirected here Sameekshasud (talk) 20:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 17 March 2015

Hello, I want to create this article, because it is about popular Indian child actor. He played in many advertisements and events, and he is also lead actor in TV show, Baal Veer, and he is currently playing movie too. So I guess it's the time to create this article. Krishna (talk) 00 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GSS (talk • contribs) 13:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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New article

A new article should be made for baalveer returns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WEST SA01 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Baalveer Returns is a sequel to Baal Veer. It has a storyline based on the first season. Baal Veer (fictional character) is known to everyone by the first season which ran for 4 years. We can't separate Season 1 and Season 2. The upcoming 3rd Season is also included under Baal Veer. The article titled Baalveer Returns has names of those artists who were there in Season 1. Hence, I have redirected the page to Baal Veer to give the readers an overview of the show and to prevent vandalism as the page Baal Veer is protected. Arunya Sakthi (talk) 14:34, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

There's WAY too information duplicate between the two articles. Cast should be in one and only one article for the relevant season. Plot should be in one and only one article for the relevant season. This was much cleaner as a single article, but since it's been split, it should actually be split. Ravensfire (talk) 15:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Article title

@Yuugone: I have reverted your changes to this article and Baalveer because:

1. You were doing a "cut and paste move", which is not the way to retitle a page as it loses the history of the work of other editors
2. In any case, all the sources for this article show that the title was "Baal Veer", two words, so the move was incorrect as well as incorrectly done.

If you believe that this article should be at a different title, please use the WP:Requested moves system to request and discuss such a move. Please never try to move a page by cutting and pasting as you did here. Thanks. PamD 17:13, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 19 July 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks 16:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

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Baal Veer → Baalveer – Baalveer is a single name of the main character of this show, so I think this article should be moved to Baalveer. Ajeeb Prani (talk) 16:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Support: As per nom. As it's a single word Baalveer not 2 different words Baal Veer. In Hindi pronunciation too it's बलवीर not बाल(hairs/kid) and वीर(warrior). Pri2000 (talk) 15:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

• Support - As per nomination. It should have been done a long time ago, but it's not too late yet. Thanks --C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 17:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

• Neutral for now - quick glance at the sources in the article have more using two words than a single work. How does this move follow WP:COMMONNAME? Ravensfire (talk) 18:15, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

  Noting that the official site url has it as a single word, but the site is blocked for my geo region so I can't see the actual page. IMDB has it as two words (which means quite little). Ravensfire (talk) 18:20, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

  Got some more time, and the Sony SAB channels have it as Baalveer. A quick and dirty WP:GTEST for both spellings is about 7.9 million for two words [1], 4.5 million for one [2].

  Support given the official channel uses one word and the sources are pretty much mixed, give weight to what the channel uses, but should probably note the alternate spelling as it's very prevalent. Ravensfire (talk) 21:55, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

• Support': As per nomination. Went through a research, and most reliable sources are using Baalveer (single word). Imsaneikigai (talk) 18:25, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
• Support: per nom. ManaliJain (talk) 04:54, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Content from deleted page on Baalveer 3 available

Hello, Baalveer 3 was recently deleted and redirected to here. However, another editor has pointed out that it may be useful to have the material from that page still visible to non-admins, for possible incorporation here. I've copied the content to my userspace here: User:Ganesha811/Baalveer3 and all are welcome to appropriately incorporate the content onto this page where that would be an improvement. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 August 2024

Kindly help to add template of main article List of characters in Baalveer in the top of cast section. Since, now the information about cast has been substantially reduced, the characters can be covered in another article for detailing. Furthermore, List of characters in Baalveer requires more contributors for its speedy completion.

Please add

Main article: List of characters in Baalveer

000099999AB (talk) 01:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done Left guide (talk) 02:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Left guide

Thank you for your kind cooperation. 000099999AB (talk) 02:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Separate article for characters

As per the edit by Ms Hassan, the information regarding cast has been reduced and merged into a single section with less organised structure. This may lead to confusion among readers, specially because Baalveer Season 1 and 2 differ from Season 3 and 4 being spiritual sequel - prequel of each other. So, this is proposed that either Cast section be made organised as of its previous revision or a separate article may be constructed by reverting this edit - [[3]] This would bring more clarity about character descriptions among readers. 000099999AB (talk) 05:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

[4]

Check this edit for revert 000099999AB (talk) 05:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I merged all seasons cast per WP:TVCAST. Listing the cast by season just creates a wall of repetitive content. Do we really need Dev Joshi, Sharmilee Raj and Shridhar Watsar's name four times in the cast section? Moreover, I have already added two entries for the character Baalveer to avoid any confusion. M S Hassan (talk | contributions) 08:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@M S Hassan I completely understand, but as per WP:TVCAST , separate list of characters should be made for long-running series and complicated cast like this, for more clarity,e.g., check List of characters in Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai. There is no need for repetition of actors' names, but the plot of Season 1 and 2 is in stark difference from that of the later seasons, which further creates a mess in the cast section. We can make another article and provide details so that this article remains brief and misunderstanding can be avoided. Kindly think over it.

Thanks 000099999AB (talk) 09:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Read WP:OTHERSTUFF, just because an article has separate cast list doesn't mean every other article should have separate cast list and imo there's no need of a separate cast list also season 3 and 4's cast list is almost same. M S Hassan (talk | contributions) 11:41, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@M S Hassan I just used the other article as an example, because it is also a long-running and complex cast series, and not as a motivation for this proposal. We can make two sections one for Season 1 and 2 and the other for seasons 3 and 4, if a separate article can't be created. Further, the length of character description must be moderately brief and not merely single-line stating relation with other characters, because plot is already summarised. Kindly check.

Thanks 000099999AB (talk) 13:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Dividing the cast section into two sections, one for the first two seasons and another for the last two seasons, just because they take place in different universes would violate WP:INUNIVERSE. M S Hassan (talk | contributions) 03:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@M S Hassan But a lot of information regarding characters has been deleted. We should at least give a brief intro to the character in context with real world, instead of just definition relations with other characters. 000099999AB (talk) 01:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@M S Hassan

Or we should make another list just for character descriptions. Besides, you have all messed up with the seasons of Baalveer returns. The plot should be instead, presented as a whole, like you said about cast section.

thank you 000099999AB (talk) 01:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)