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http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/gmd:@field(NUMBER+@band(g4126p+mf000065))

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/ppmap.htm

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/library/reg_trails.html

http://www.marion.ohio-state.edu/fac/schul/trails/trails.html

http://www.iowadot.gov/autotrails/indexauto.htm

Partial lists

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1926 Rand McNally

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The following are on the 1926 Rand McNally atlas (note that a few pages, such as southern Minnesota, are missing):

1922 Highways Green Book

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This list is from the 1922 Highways Green Book.

1923 Clason Map Co map

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This is from the map on [1]:

  1. Atlantic Highway, Calais to Miami
  2. Atlantic-Pacific Highway, New York to Los Angeles
  3. Bankhead Highway, Washington to San Diego
  4. Black and Yellow Trail, Chicago to Yellowstone
  5. Colorado to Gulf Highway, Denver to Galveston and Brownsville
  6. Custer Battlefield Hiway, Omaha to Glacier
  7. Dallas-Canadian-Denver Highway, Galveston, TX to Boulder, CO
  8. Detroit-Lincoln-Denver Highway, Detroit to Omaha and Denver
  9. Dixie Highway, Chicago and Sault Ste. Marie to Miami
  10. Dixie Overland Highway, Savannah to San Diego
  11. Evergreen National Highway, Victoria, BC to El Paso, TX
  12. George Washington National Highway, Seattle, WA to Savannah, GA
  13. Jackson Highway, Chicago to New Orleans
  14. Jefferson Highway, Winnipeg to New Orleans
  15. Jefferson Davis National Highway, Washington to San Francisco
  16. King of Trails Highway, Winnipeg to Brownsville
  17. Kings Transcontinental Highway, Ottawa to Toronto
  18. Lee Highway, New York to San Francisco
  19. Lincoln Highway, New York to San Francisco
  20. Lone Star Route, Chicago to Lake Charles
  21. Lone Star Trail, Madison FL, to Shreveport
  22. Meridian Highway, Winnipeg to Mexico City
  23. Mississippi Valley Highway, Ely to Gulfport
  24. National Old Trails Road, Washington and Baltimore to Los Angeles
  25. National Park-to-Park Highway, "circle connecting our national parks"
  26. National Parks Highway Boston and New York to Seattle
  27. National Roosevelt Midland Trail, Washington and Newport News to Los Angeles
  28. Old Oregon Trail, Independence to Seaside and Olympia
  29. Old Spanish Trail, St. Augustine to San Diego
  30. Ozark Trails, St. Louis to El Paso
  31. Pacific Highway, Vancouver to San Diego
  32. Pikes Peak O. to O. Highway, New York to Los Angeles
  33. South West Trail, Chicago to El Paso
  34. Susquehanna Trail, Buffalo to Washington
  35. Theodore Roosevelt International Trail, Portland, ME to Portland, OR
  36. Victory Highway, New York to San Francisco
  37. Yellowstone Trail, Plymouth Rock to Puget Sound

1924 map

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This is from the 1924 map on [2]:

  1. Albert Pike Highway, Hot Springs to Colorado Springs
  2. Arrowhead Trail, Salt Lake City to Los Angeles
  3. Atlantic Highway, Calais to Miami
  4. Atlantic-Pacific Highway, New York to Los Angeles
  5. Atlantic Yellowstone Pacific Hiway, Chicago to Sioux Falls
  6. Bankhead Highway, Washington to San Diego
  7. Black and Yellow Trail, Chicago to Yellowstone
  8. Colorado to Gulf Highway, Denver to Galveston and Brownsville
  9. Custer Battlefield Hiway, Omaha to Glacier
  10. Detroit-Lincoln-Denver Highway, Detroit to Denver
  11. Dixie Highway, Chicago and Sault Ste. Marie to Miami
  12. Dixie Bee Line, Chicago to Nashville
  13. Dixie Overland Highway, Savannah to San Diego
  14. Fort Smith, Pauls Valley & Wichita Falls Highway, Fort Smith to Wichita Falls
  15. Glacier to Gulf Motorway, Calgary to Tampico
  16. Glacier Trail, Seattle to Miami
  17. Jackson Highway, Chicago to New Orleans
  18. Jefferson Highway, Winnipeg to New Orleans
  19. Jefferson Davis National Highway, Washington to San Francisco
  20. King of Trails, Winnipeg to Brownsville
  21. Lakes to Sea Highway, Erie to Atlantic City
  22. Lee Highway, New York to San Francisco
  23. Lincoln Highway, New York to San Francisco
  24. Lone Star Route, Chicago to Lake Charles
  25. Meridian Highway, Winnipeg to Mexico City
  26. Mississippi River Scenic Highway, Winnipeg and Port Arthur, ON to Fort Myers and Port Arthur, TX
  27. Mississippi Valley Highway, Ely to Gulfport
  28. National Old Trails Road, Washington and Baltimore to Los Angeles
  29. National Park-to-Park Highway, "circle connecting our national parks"
  30. National Roosevelt Midland Trail, Washington and Newport News to Los Angeles
  31. National Parks Highway (Northwest Trail), Boston and New York to Seattle
  32. Old Oregon Trail, Independence to Seaside and Olympia
  33. Old Spanish Trail, St. Augustine to San Diego
  34. Ozark Trails, St. Louis to El Paso
  35. Pacific Highway, Vancouver to San Diego
  36. Pikes Peak Ocean to Ocean Highway, New York to Los Angeles
  37. Southwest Trail, Chicago to El Paso
  38. Susquehanna Trail, Buffalo to Washington
  39. Theodore Roosevelt International Highway, Portland, ME to Portland, OR
  40. Three "C" Highway, Cleveland to Cincinnati
  41. Victory Highway, New York to San Francisco
  42. Yellowstone Trail, Plymouth Rock to Puget Sound

Good Roads Year Book

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From the "Good Roads Year Book", 1912-1917 (1913 has some missing pages; 1917 has history of some major ones, but does not list all minor ones). A few of these may have been simply good roads organizations without a trail (such as the Central Colorado Highway Association).

The Road Maker, Excavator, and Grader (1921)

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The Road Maker, Excavator, and Grader March, June, and July 1921 editions list highway and road associations on pages 34-36.

Maps

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There needs to be citations that demonstrate the verifiability of this article. While "auto trail" sounds quaint and suitably of its age, this article veers entirely too close to sounding like original research. Please cite sources. • Freechild'sup? 20:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's any name that's more common than any other, since these were not regulated in most states. Several contemporary map companies used "auto trail": [3][4][5][6] Another company used "trail": [7] --NE2 20:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not Original Research. This article needs more references. The authors of this entry are utilizing a body of scholarship about America's early love with the automobile with which I am personally familiar. I'll add some references in here in a few weeks, but I'm off to present a paper about the archaeological remains of the Arrowhead Trail, a historic auto trail in california, nevada, and utah, in the historic trails section of the Nevada-Arizona history convention. Will post again in a couple weeks once the semester ends! Bwilreker (talk) 20:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just added the trails from the 1923 GM Co Map that is on the DOT website. I have a colored version of this map and the full title is "Mileage Map of the Transcontinental Trails of the United States Showing best road - road distances - principal cities." There is no date on this map. Only "Copyrighted The G M Co All Rights Reserved." I would be glad to send a copy of the map to anyone interested as with that date, unless we can prove that it was published earlier, it would not yet be in the public domain. So, they are clearly called "Trails." The legend calls the routes Highway, Trail, Route, Road. The 1923 map has a couple of new/different trails, Kings Transcontinental Hwy, Lone Star Trail. Lrsears (talk) 01:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Early history

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It appears that one early plan in 1911 was for seven roads radiating from Washington, DC to be taken over by the federal government, called "national highways": Washington National Highway (Portland, ME), Roosevelt National Highway (Buffalo, NY), Lincoln National Highway (Seattle, WA), Jefferson National Highway (San Francisco, CA), Grant National Highway (San Diego, CA), Monroe National Highway (Austin, TX), and Lee National Highway (Miami, FL). Although none of these were laid out as such, they may have inspired later routes. By 1912 there were plans for a Trail to Sunset (Chicago-Los Angeles), Overland Trail (New York-Chicago-San Francisco), Midland Trail (New York-St. Louis-Los Angeles), and Northwest Trail (New York-Chicago-Seattle), laid out by A.L. Westgard, Director of Transcontinental Highways of the National Highways Association. There was also a Pacific Highway (Seattle-San Francisco) and an All-Southern Route (New York-San Diego). [8], [9], and [10] look useful. --NE2 20:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some specific history: [11] --NE2 08:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The following are listed in [12] and [13], and later became the following trails:

For descriptions of Iowa's auto trails registered with the Iowa Highway Commission during the 1910s-1920s, as well as details about some of Iowa's nonregistered routes, visit the Iowa Department of Transportaton's Historic Auto Trails Web site at: [14]. Original registration documents are available online, as well as sign images and other resources. Source: Iowa DOT's Office of Media and Marketing Services


--NE2 08:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interstates

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shouldn't this also have a list of Interstates that approximate these first highways? 70.24.246.151 (talk) 06:25, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The early Interstate system incorporated U.S. Highways, which were developed from these trails. It would be logical to list the U.S. Routes which became associated with portions of the original trails, even though many of the original U.S. Highway designations are superceded. To add Interstate associations may make this article overburdened with additional links. It already has a need for improvement especially in the supplementary links and source information. Refiner (talk) 11:27, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Malone?

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I remember reading a newspaper archive stating the Malone-Montreal (or Montreal-Malone) Highway as the first auto road between Montreal and New York State. So if this is the case, would it be an auto trail? IIRC, the newspaper was from the teens. There's still a stretch of roadway in Quebec called the "Old Malone Highway". 70.24.246.151 (talk) 06:34, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Old Oregon Trail Western Terminus

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I am quite familiar with portions of this route since I have lived near the western terminus. I don't recall it ever including a link to Olympia, Washington. Rather than just editing it out, I would like to research for any sources referencing this location. I do know that the Old Oregon Auto Trail does roughly follow U.S. 30 from Idaho through the Columbia Gorge to Portland, Oregon and out to Astoria. It is possible that it may have included a portion which became U.S. 101 crossing the Columbia River to Ilwaco, Washington. This is from personal experience and needs source information before incorporating into the article. Due to the age of the Astoria Bridge, this segment is unlikely, and any ferry route is much farther inland from the bridge location due to the dangerous river currents. If I can locate source information, I would like to write the supplemental page for this trail (or assist another author in its creation and development). Refiner (talk) 11:41, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge of Historic trails and roads in the United States with Auto trail

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
To not merge, given that the topics are sufficiently distinct and that readers are best served by the current structure. Renaming was floated as an idea, but with no specific proposal; discussion stale. Klbrain (talk) 18:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is significant overlap with these pages. I have no preference to which article should be merged into which, but I feel like one article here is better than two. –Fredddie™ 06:45, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - They are two separate topics and should be separate articles. Historic Trails deals with trails/paths related to foot or non-mechanized migration or purposeful travel from one location to another. Some historic trails later developed into roads but most faded away as their purpose waned. Auto Trails are different in that they deal with mostly leisure auto travel connecting one location to another. They existed at a time when auto touring was increasing and motorists needed a way to travel long distances. It was well after most historic trails had been discontinued. Combining the articles would make it appear that they are a continuation of one another but in addition to having different purposes, they existed at different times. Dbroer (talk) 15:34, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Dbroer's reasoning. We need to differentiate roads and trails of the automobile era from those of the pre-automobile era, just as we need to differentiate turnpikes of the automobile era (like the Pennsylvania Turnpike) from those of the pre-automobile era. I suggest changing the title of the "Historic trails and roads in the United States" article to clarify, but I am not sure the best way to do that. We might need to further differentiate between trails that were just dirt paths hacked through flora from roads engineered like the Roman roads, such as the National Road or the various pre-automobile turnpikes. VC 15:16, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per above. Libcub (talk) 02:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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