Talk:Aubrey Logan

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Awards table

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The requested changes themselves are not notable, per WP:N and WP:SPIP

Seems like the cleanest way to input facts without possibility of COI prose. Reference #3 is already in the article. Thank you! ESparky (talk) 01:40, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Awards


Year	Category	Institution or publication	Result	Notes	Ref.
2006	Full scholarship	Berklee College of Music	Won	Major: Trombone performance (2010)	^[1]
2009	Audience's Choice Award	Montreux Jazz Festival	Won		^[2]
2009	Jury’s First Place	Montreux Jazz Festival	Won		^[2]
2009	Golden Ticket	American Idol	Won	Advance to Hollywood round.	^[3]
2017	Jazz Division	USA Songwriting Competition	Won	For "Pity Party" with Lisa Cole Bass^[4] (First place in Jazz and third place in overall competition)^[5]	^[2] ^[6]

References

^ "Alumni Profile: Aubrey Logan '10". Berklee College of Music. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.
^ ^a ^b ^c "Postmodern Jukebox Songstress Aubrey Logan On Her Own Musical Influences". 90.1 FM WABE (NPR). 2018-02-20. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= / |archive-url= timestamp mismatch; 2018-02-21 suggested (help)
^ Cite error: The named reference Hollywood Progressive 2014 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ "Taking Applications – The 23rd Annual USA Songwriting Competition". NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather. 2018-02-21. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.
^ Competition, USA Songwriting. "Winners of USA Songwriting Competition". USA Songwriting Competition. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.
^ "L.A. Songwriter Wins Top Honors In USA Songwriting Competition". Music Connection Magazine. 2017-12-08. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

Reply 22-FEB-2018

Declined per WP:N and WP:SPIP

@Spintendo: Not sure what you consider SPIP, the tour date mentioned in the NPR affiliate's feature interview was Tuesday night. It is my understanding that the Notability guidelines do not apply to the contents of the article WP:NNC. The awards go to WP:NTEMP. Yes, I know the artist, therefore I will only suggest prose, but the only money changing hands is me buying her music. Thank you. ESparky (talk) 18:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My error, I selected WP:N when I meant to select WP:NPOV (my response script shortens this as Np. I mistyped and placed only N). Merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Articles should not become a complete exposition of all possible details, but rather, a summary of accepted knowledge regarding their subjects.^[1] Verifiable and sourced statements like the ones from your request are treated with appropriate weight.^[2] Items such as Berklee's acceptance of a scholarhip application or Ms. Logan's 3rd place in a competition organized in part by Berklee, appear as weighted towards Berklee and its interests more so than an independent reference on these matters would. If there are WP:RS of a third party nature which speak to these awards, please advise. Spintendo 19:32, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo: In many cases, an incomplete exposition of details causes problems on Wikipedia.

Upon further examination I'm finding that the songwriter's award is a win in two categories, first place in Jazz and third place overall, which is why I'm finding conflicting references. The reason I included the reprinted press release from NBC29 was for WP:NPOV reasons to disclose the perceived ambiguity and to properly credit the co-writer's name (I.e., she didn't write it alone and not disclosing would appear NPOV). I did not notice that Berklee was last on the list of sponsors, I don't think there is a conspiracy, I haven't seen Berklee mention the win anywhere -- a site search yields nothing. :)

Possible References:

The primary source, to disambiguate that the song won two awards.[1]
The NPR affiliate podcast interview intro (prose written by the author)[2]
A standard staff story I just found by Music Connection. [3]
The NBC29 reprint to document the co-writer credit. [4]

I consider a full scholarship in music, for a musician, a notable award (scholarships are awarded). Different case if the scholarship was for math. I believe that the industry specific scholarship goes to WP:SUSTAINED.

I'm going to update the awards table with the Music Connection and primary reference. ESparky (talk) 21:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rex071404 § Final decision, which suggested a similar principle in November 2004.
^ "Wikipedia:Neutral point of view". Wikipedia. 27 January 2018.

Singles

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

"U Can't Touch This" MC Hammer jazz cover (2017)^[1]

There are tour dates at the bottom of the Billboard feature, but they are from last summer. ESparky (talk) 18:38, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Cirisano, Tatiana (2017-08-23). "'U Can't Touch This' Jazz Cover by Aubrey Logan: Video". Billboard. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

Reply

? Clarification required Per WP:MINDREADER — unable to discern. Please advise on placement. Regards, Spintendo 19:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo:There is a singles section in the Discography. One of the titles did not get English press so should probably be removed. Section should probably read like this.

Discography

Singles

~~"Give It Away", Scott Bradlee's Postmodern Jukebox, feat. Aubrey Logan (2015)~~
"My Heart Will Go On", Scott Bradlee's Postmodern Jukebox, feat. Aubrey Logan (2016)^[1]^[2]
"U Can't Touch This", MC Hammer jazz cover (2017)^[3]

Thanks ESparky (talk) 23:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Postmodern Jukebox Give "My Heart Will Go On" a Doo-Wop Twist". Nerdist. 2016-05-18. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)
^ "Postmodern Jukebox give 'My Heart Will Go On' a doo-wop remake". EW.com. 2016-05-17. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.
^ Cirisano, Tatiana (2017-08-23). "'U Can't Touch This' Jazz Cover by Aubrey Logan: Video". Billboard. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[Berklee_College_of_Music-1] "Alumni Profile: Aubrey Logan '10". Berklee College of Music. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[90.1_FM_WABE_2018-2] "Postmodern Jukebox Songstress Aubrey Logan On Her Own Musical Influences". 90.1 FM WABE (NPR). 2018-02-20. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= / |archive-url= timestamp mismatch; 2018-02-21 suggested (help)

[Hollywood_Progressive_2014-3] Cite error: The named reference Hollywood Progressive 2014 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[NBC29_WVIR_Charlottesville,_VA_News,_Sports_and_Weather_2018-4] "Taking Applications – The 23rd Annual USA Songwriting Competition". NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather. 2018-02-21. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[Competition-5] Competition, USA Songwriting. "Winners of USA Songwriting Competition". USA Songwriting Competition. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[Music_Connection_Magazine_2017-6] "L.A. Songwriter Wins Top Honors In USA Songwriting Competition". Music Connection Magazine. 2017-12-08. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[7] See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rex071404 § Final decision, which suggested a similar principle in November 2004.

[8] "Wikipedia:Neutral point of view". Wikipedia. 27 January 2018.

[Cirisano_2017-9] Cirisano, Tatiana (2017-08-23). "'U Can't Touch This' Jazz Cover by Aubrey Logan: Video". Billboard. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[Nerdist_2016-10] "Postmodern Jukebox Give "My Heart Will Go On" a Doo-Wop Twist". Nerdist. 2016-05-18. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

[EW.com_2016-11] "Postmodern Jukebox give 'My Heart Will Go On' a doo-wop remake". EW.com. 2016-05-17. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

[Cirisano_2017-12] Cirisano, Tatiana (2017-08-23). "'U Can't Touch This' Jazz Cover by Aubrey Logan: Video". Billboard. Archived from the original on 2018-02-22. Retrieved 2018-02-22.

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