Talk:Attrition (website)

Removed incorrect use of "cracker", where "hacker" is the correct term. Attrition.org had nothing concerning copy protection cracking. A lot of people on the Internet are confused with the terms, and sometimes incorrectly use "cracker" to refer to people who break into computer systems. Jgw 21:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably a late reply, but...

Jargon File: hacker (non-computer-related items snipped)

1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.
2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.
4. A person who is good at programming quickly.
5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in ‘a Unix hacker’. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)
7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

Jargon File: cracker

One who breaks security on a system. Coined ca. 1985 by hackers in defense against journalistic misuse of hacker (q.v., sense 8). [...]

Jargon File: crack

1. v. To break into a system (compare cracker).
2. v. Action of removing the copy protection from a commercial program [...]

--grawity ^{talk / PGP} 16:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Eric Raymond has tried hard to push that on us, but according anybody other than ESR fanboys, hacker has its traditional meaning of a malicious computer attacker. Even Wiktionary agrees on this one — or check any paper dictionary. 86.164.188.212 (talk) 19:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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