Talk:Attack on the Moncada Barracks

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I put the ((POV)) because this article has nothing in common with reality. It seems exile-cubans hijacked this article to spread propaganda. This article needs a complete rewrite. The most cynic sentence is "Sixty-one rebels were killed in the fighting". Actually about a dozen rebels were killed fighting. The others were executed afterwards (Batista issued a order to kill all rebels). My English is way to bad to rewrite this article but Im going to delete most of it if nobody cares.

There's no need to completely remove most of the article. If you believe certain facts (such as the number of rebels killed) are incorrect, change them. I'm reverting the section you deleted. —DO'Neil 02:15, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Date of the amnesty

The beginning of the article says the amnesty happened in 1956, but below it says that the it happened "in the same year" of the 1955 moevement. The page 26th of July Movement also says they were already in Mexico by 1955. When exactly was the amnesty? -- NIC1138 23:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Math

Okay. The article says "Sixty-one rebels were killed in the fighting, and one third of them were captured. Half of the men captured were tortured to death." That's some dizzying math. One third of 61 is 20.333333..., and half of that is 10.16666666..., so this article leads me to believe that Batista's government tortured 10 and 1/6 men. I think that fractions ought to be replaced with specifics, or, if that's not possible, some "about"s ought to be thrown in. Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 01:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

• I added the figures that Castro quotes in his autobiography "My Life", but the other numbers still need citations. It would be good to get figures from an impartial historian as I realize Castro's account might be biased. Other notes about my edits:

I moved the note about the importance of the date of the attack i.e. the morning after the fiestas. I removed the part about soldiers being hung over - unless someone can find a citation specifically saying this? We should be careful not to assume too much and keep it in the tone of an encyclopedia. The way I wrote it (now in the Preparation section), it's pretty clear the date was chosen because everyone would be tired/hung over/not especially vigilant/etc due to the celebrations the night before. Hopefully this gives an accurate picture.

All my edits are from Castro's autobiography, which can't be said to be impartial, but hopefully over time people will add other citations and balance out the article. I tried not to add anything that smelled of bias or propaganda. Zatoichi26 (talk) 01:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 18 May 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 08:38, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

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Moncada Barracks → Attack on Moncada Barracks – The article is about the 1953 attack, not about the barracks buildings. Eswiki has separate articles: es:Asalto al Cuartel Moncada vs. es:Cuartel Moncada; this article's content parallels the former rather than the latter. (t · c) buidhe 17:22, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support. This article is clearly about the attack. Walrasiad (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Many Lies

Fidel lost the direction he never reach any barrack, thought he was born and raised in the city before moving to Habana. 2601:586:4D00:2B70:65E2:BD33:D882:E02D (talk) 14:51, 26 July 2023 (UTC)