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A fact from Atmospheric model appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 February 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that atmospheric models were not able to outperform statistical models in forecasting tropical cyclone tracks until the 1990s?

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A section on model parameterizations, which is likely to focus on clouds and precipitation. References for each model individually listed. Thegreatdr (talk) 12:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from having no information on ensembles, how would this article be different from Numerical weather prediction? More detail on each major kind of model? Something else? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking about that myself, and would like some feedback about what more could be within this article to differentiate it from the NWP article. There is quite a bit of overlap, but that seems unavoidable. For now, there's talk of paramaterization on this page, and not the NWP article, though that could change during FAC depending upon what comments we receive there. This would be the page to elaborate on the guidance individually, though most of that should be on their respective subpages. We could elaborate more about which models use MOS here, since it does seem special to the NCEP guidance. It's the same predicament we're in between the weather and meteorology pages. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we could try to explain what the differences between barotropic, thermotropic, multi-layer baroclinic, and primitive equation models are. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We could include a "types" section which discusses that. Good idea. Some of that may already be buried within this article's prose. I'll separate it out. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be some reference to the early climate models, such as those of Budyko and Sellers? http://wiki.nsdl.org/index.php/PALE:ClassicArticles/GlobalWarming/Article11 and http://www.aip.org/history/climate/simple.htm#SBS Chogg (talk) 23:52, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Duplication

The table of contents of atmospheric model follows that of numerical weather prediction too closely; in fact, some sections seem to be entirely copy & pastes. fgnievinski (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Fgnievinski: These sections were copied in this revision by User:Thegreatdr. Jarble (talk) 23:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since some of the sections were directly copied, they could be included in this article using the {{Excerpt}} template. Jarble (talk) 23:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Back when the articles were written, that template was unknown, at least to me. And you can see we were wondering about the similarity of the two articles nine years ago. This is a subarticle of Numerical Weather Prediction, which doesn't simply involve forecasting of the atmosphere. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:50, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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